Simon: I swear when it's appropriate. Kaylee: Simon, the whole point of swearing is that it ain't appropriate.

'Jaynestown'


Spike's Bitches 46: Don't I get a cookie?  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Barb - May 16, 2011 10:55:27 am PDT #21484 of 30000
“Not dead yet!”

I have new-ish hair.

Instead of taking off 4+ inches as I'd expected we'd do, my lovely stylist convinced me to only take off two inches and add in a lot more layering (which I'd expected to do regardless) and surprise, surprise, my hair, which has been waving slightly for the past few years, revealed itself to have really deep waves and even some curl! Go figure.


erikaj - May 16, 2011 11:07:22 am PDT #21485 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

JZ, all I'd need is a minion running ahead to whistle "Farmer in the Dell" and, presto, Gimp!Omar. Indeed. Although it's not actually hard to be above this place.


§ ita § - May 16, 2011 11:18:11 am PDT #21486 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Congratulations, Seska!

you can no longer make the assumption that (to use Burrell's example from way above), "The pregnant woman should talk to her doctor," is correct

Wait--surely if you've established woman you've established her? Otherwise I have little else to hold onto.

TiVo has grabbed an episode of Real Sex for me. Oh, lordie. HBO has been doing all this all this time? I'm so naive.


billytea - May 16, 2011 11:22:52 am PDT #21487 of 30000
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

(Again, the irony, it burns.)

Literally?

It's what happens when you have too many ironies in the fire.


Steph L. - May 16, 2011 11:24:23 am PDT #21488 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Wait--surely if you've established woman you've established her?

No, I meant that both "woman" and "her" (I'm linking them for the purposes of this example) aren't always going to apply when talking about pregnancy.

I'm with you on the assumption that once you've established woman, then the pronoun would be "her."


§ ita § - May 16, 2011 11:28:54 am PDT #21489 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I meant that both "woman" and "her" (I'm linking them for the purposes of this example) aren't always going to apply when talking about pregnancy.

Oh, okay. Because Burrell's example was "woman" and "their", which I agree is hella clumsy.

I don't see why academic writing never has occasion to refer to unknown genders, and I'm never going to err on the side of assigning gender for no reason, but if you do know and have already specified, why the hell not just keep saying so?


Steph L. - May 16, 2011 11:31:14 am PDT #21490 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Oh, okay. Because Burrell's example was "woman" and "their", which I agree is hella clumsy.

Yeah, I moved on from pronouns to navigating how to talk about a pregnant person who might not identify as a woman. Certainly not run-of-the-mill stuff.


Aims - May 16, 2011 11:32:32 am PDT #21491 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Congrats, Seska!! How exciting. You guys are beautiful!!

In other news, I totally got to hold, snuggle, and play with a freaking 6 month old capuchin monkey this morning. A freaking monkey. He was awesome. His name was Seymour and he totally snuggled my neck, inside my fleece, and NIBBLED MY FACE. It was brilliant.


Typo Boy - May 16, 2011 11:37:57 am PDT #21492 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

For what it is worth, a lot of publishers have the standard of alternating between "he/him/his" and "she/her/hers" as gender neutral pronouns. That is the first time you make a gender neutral reference it is author's choice. But next reference you have to make the opposite choice you made last time. So if you start out with "she" as a generic reference to human beings of both genders, next generic reference has to use "he" (Or "him" or "his" depending.


meara - May 16, 2011 11:44:20 am PDT #21493 of 30000

you can no longer make the assumption that (to use Burrell's example from way above), "The pregnant woman should talk to her doctor," is correct

Heh. Glad I am not the only one thinking of the many pregnant men of my acquaintance.