Wash: Don't fall asleep now. Sleepiness is weakness of character. Ask anyone. You're acting captain. Know what happens you fall asleep now? Zoe: Jayne slits my throat, and takes over. Wash: That's right. Zoe: And we can't stop it.

'Shindig'


Spike's Bitches 46: Don't I get a cookie?  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Fred Pete - Apr 18, 2011 8:50:43 am PDT #19942 of 30000
Ann, that's a ferret.

Thanks for the thoughts for Victor. Turns out there's a 9-point scale for determining whether an animal is over, under, or the right weight. 1 is, basically, Auschwitz survivor (vet actually used that example) and 9 is, well, the opposite. When Victor was admitted, he was a 1 to 2. With problems in his kidneys, spleen, liver, lungs, eyes, nervous system, and one other organ that I've forgotten.

We visited him again late yesterday afternoon. His eyes were starting to look a little better (less sign of iritis, and less jaundiced (which is a good sign for his liver)). He didn't want to be held, so I let him explore on the floor. He promptly peed on a scale. He even pooped a bit yesterday. And I accidentally stepped on his tail trying to keep him from trying to escape the isolation ward.

He's still a "puzzle case," at least until test results start coming in (probably tomorrow). But the vets are talking about three possible diagnoses. The "best" is a systemic infection, which can be cured with lots of antibiotics and rest and all that. Lymphoma is in the middle because it can at least be treated (like any other cancer). The scary possiblity is FIP (feline infectious peritonitis). If it's FIP, we're probably going to have to put him to sleep immediately.

From Victor's reaction to the antibiotics, I'm guessing it probably isn't lymphoma. But it could still be FIP.

Hubs chewed me out for stepping on Victor's tail, then chewed me out for letting negative energy into the room when I started feeling guilty. I had to leave the room for 5 or 10 minutes until I stopped crying.

And what makes it worse is, we could have seen it sooner. I feel completely unfit to care for our cats.


Trudy Booth - Apr 18, 2011 8:52:23 am PDT #19943 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

And what makes it worse is, we could have seen it sooner. I feel completely unfit to care for our cats.

FredPete, if you aren't fit to care for cats, NO ONE ON THE PLANET EARTH is fit to care for cats.


Steph L. - Apr 18, 2011 8:53:06 am PDT #19944 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Now it is not unreasonable for doctors to base their treatments on what amounts to craft lore where no scientific tests have been done.

How are you defining "scientific tests"? Prospective, placebo-controlled, double-blind crossover studies?

I ask, because there are a heck of a lot more bases for selecting a medical treatment than ONLY (1) "craft lore" or (2) prospective, placebo-controlled, double-blind crossover studies.

For instance, population-based observational studies, even though they run the risk of confounders, are still valid and useful studies that can add to the body of scientific evidence supporting (or decrying) a medical treatment.


Atropa - Apr 18, 2011 9:04:52 am PDT #19945 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

For me, the various vitamins and supplements I take have been specifically prescribed by my naturopath MD. I trust her research.

FredPete, if you aren't fit to care for cats, NO ONE ON THE PLANET EARTH is fit to care for cats.

This needed repeating. FredPete, you are so, so good with cats.


Atropa - Apr 18, 2011 9:05:14 am PDT #19946 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

And because it needed a separate post:

Happy Birthday, Bonny!


Fred Pete - Apr 18, 2011 9:05:37 am PDT #19947 of 30000
Ann, that's a ferret.

Happy Birthday, Bonny!


ChiKat - Apr 18, 2011 9:07:01 am PDT #19948 of 30000
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Happy Birthday, bonny!!

{{Fred Pete}} Honey, you absolutely deserve to take care of cats. No question about that.


Typo Boy - Apr 18, 2011 9:11:27 am PDT #19949 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Huh on the Osteoporosis. Was told this by a leading researcher. Though I said "weight bearing" not exercise in general. That is you can build muscle mass through things other than weight bearing exercise. (Isometic) It is widely believed that for Osteo "weight bearing" is better than non weight bearing, and I think that is what has not been verified. Though maybe in that google some test of specifically weight bearing are included.

Offhand can find some on exercise and on weight bearing but not one that compares weight bearing to non weight beraing. Ok on second google, yeah they have compared. It was a major research center in Oregon that told me that, so interesting.


erikaj - Apr 18, 2011 9:15:25 am PDT #19950 of 30000
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-

You have had some bad luck with some unhealthy beasts lately, Fred, but I don't doubt you did everything possible and then some.


meara - Apr 18, 2011 9:19:59 am PDT #19951 of 30000

I shall now attempt to find the studies, and work out what they were using exactly.

There was a good rundown of some of it in the New York Times health section a while back--they had a whole series on migraine, but I think one blog post in particular that went over some of the things like feverfew, magnesium, and suchlike. My neurologist had encouraged me to take magnesium, but apparently I'm very sensitive to it--if I take too much (=the recommended dose by those studies and my neurologist) I get crazy itchy all over my body (not allergies though!).