And now I have tea & am watching Date Night.

Barb, let me see if I can follow the process here:
1. Person finds your prose good enough to take, and takes some.
2. When you object, she decides that you suck
3.Also, that you write dumb books and have stupid hair.

Crime makes you stupid. Next week, I have maybe a date, maybe an f2f, with someone I met a month ago. First one with a woman...first one in general in a crazy-long time. We kind of click, but it's not like LOVE or anything like that. I might be bi like I was straight and get stuck in the friend zone a lot. But that is okay right now, given that I usually spend Saturday watching junk on Bravo.

but need to complete Calculus 2 by the end of this semester to stay on track for their majors,

...isn't that what summer school is for? How on earth do they expect the other way to be effective? (And who is majoring in something that requires calculus, and thinks that after flunking calc, that'll still be a great major for them??)

Seriously...if it weren't for math, I might be a doctor right now. But I probably wouldn't be a good one, cause I flunked math.

The Calculus 1 class here is very difficult -- I can see someone failing the first time and then passing the second time and doing pretty well in an engineering major. (The engineering majors are the only ones who have this issue with the timing.) However, I cannot see someone being able to do anything in Calculus 2 after having failed Calc 1 and not retaken it yet. I'm actually surprised the university even allows them to take the classes this way.

WindSparrow, I know you said you had CBT skills, but do you know observe and describe? I can review it if not.

It wasn't one I was familiar with, but I Googled it, and got a decent description from a site giving an overview of DBT skills.

Hil, that's bizarre. Don't prerequisites exist for a reason?

erika, have fun on your maybe date.

Hil, were they people who failed in spite of actually applying themselves to the work? Or were they slacking and hoping their instructors were easy to get around, and now have had a giant wake-up call?

Hil, were they people who failed in spite of actually applying themselves to the work?

I think so. I think the real problem is that they didn't have a good enough algebra and arithmetic background to really get what was going on. (I heard one person who's been teaching for a while say something like, "I have never seen a student fail calculus. I have seen plenty of students get an F in calculus because they failed arithmetic, or their schools failed arithmetic, years ago." That pretty much goes along with what I've seen so far -- nearly all of the students who are really having trouble in calculus are having trouble because they don't understand earlier math well enough to understand the explanations of the calculus ideas.)

I really need to retake all the math I took in school. It's a mystery to me.