'The Message'
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
I think the first two are the only ones that atheists themselves would use.
I've seen all four being used by atheists, although I'd disagree with #3 and just call it agnosticism. #4 I've seen used like so: "I lack a belief in God just like I lack a belief there's a teacup orbiting Neptune... but for all I know there could be a God or a teacup orbiting Neptune - I just currently have no basis for believing either."
Wow, DJ, those are wild. I would ... fall right on my face, though.
Good idea, Barb! I always look at their dresses and forget the shoes.
That alone can create a forum thread that will never end until 500 million years from now when the heating sun has resulted a depletion of carbon dioxide (ironic isn't it?) that will result in the extinction of all large land animals. Even then it may be continued by sentient robots.
I would avoid such a forum.
Nora, insent.
I agree with #3, and the only way I can see #4 is that it defaults to #2.
I may have gone a bit heavy on the libertarian snark myself, but I was Ayn Rand libertarian myself for many years. I didn't agree with the Libertarian party platform, mostly because I thought its opposition to the draft was actually at odds with the libertarian view of the role of the central government.
In general, having a libertarian viewpoint makes one a fiscal conservative and a social liberal, which I generally am. However, when the Republicans got in bed with the religious right, they became what I saw as the bigger threat to my basic principles, including that the government has no place in social policy.
Also, I got older and realized that shit happens, no matter how self-sufficient you think you are. Whether or not it was at odds with some of my principles, I didn't want to live in a society where people are forced to live under viaducts or choose between food and medicine. Also, as became even more glaringly obvious from the behavior of executives at places ranging from Enron to Goldman Sachs, lack of regulation does not lead to a golden age. It leads to nature red in tooth and claw.
Speaking of shoes, I just got these and these on the super cheap at Nordie's Rack yesterday. I lurves me some Nordie's Rack.
Oh, Amy, they're not all heels, they have a lot of flats. These for example [link]
Google logo is made of awesome today.
Google logo is made of awesome today.
Cool. 'Cept I hate pages that make noise all on their own.