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Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

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Frankenbuddha - Jun 22, 2010 8:01:03 am PDT #8142 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Do not EVEN get me started on the grammatical kerfuckery that is "Live and Let Die." Gah.

But in this ever changing world in which we live in...

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bon bon - Jun 22, 2010 8:01:56 am PDT #8143 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

It's the Netflix curse--since I'm not going to have them all in my hand at once, I figure I might as well get them listened to ASAP. But you're right--they're going to assume ep 1 that I've seen the whole series. I just don't want to miss the creatorly goodness.

I see that, and the commentaries are probably only filmed by the time the next season is shot. But it's a show you just don't want to be spoiled by.


Dana - Jun 22, 2010 8:04:30 am PDT #8144 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

So, all the people who sing "Do You Know What It Means to Miss New Orleans," including the people who are from there, are DOIN IT RONG? That is seriously fucking hilarious.

I make an exception for the sake of rhyming in songs. But only good songs.


smonster - Jun 22, 2010 8:05:45 am PDT #8145 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

However, if there are a lot of people like me who, for whatever reason, experience the same thing maybe that's the reason for the idea that there's really not such a thing as bi.

Gud, we may be talking at cross-purposes. My point is that "ending up with a man"=straight. Sexual identity is highly personal. To many, especially those (but not only) in the queer community, making that decision or assuming for someone else is not appreciated. Depending on how close you are to those in your sample, you may find it interesting to discuss with them and ask how they perceive themselves.

Sexual identity is not just who you have sex with - it's also who you're attracted to, etc. I am fair certain that even if I marry a dude next month and we live happily ever after until we die simultaneously, I will always and forever amen find certain chicks attractive. And vice versa if I find me a good woman.

However, if there are a lot of people like me who, for whatever reason, experience the same thing maybe that's the reason for the idea that there's really not such a thing as bi.

Right. Back to this statement - my condensed response would be that those people are making extremely problematic assumptions based on a heteronormative and static interpretation of others' sexual identity.


Steph L. - Jun 22, 2010 8:06:00 am PDT #8146 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Do not EVEN get me started on the grammatical kerfuckery that is "Live and Let Die." Gah.

No, do get started. Because I do figure it could be fixed, and I'm not sure what I'm missing.

Well, "But in this ever changing world in which we live in..." has the preposition "in" twice. (Well, 3 times, but I'm referring to the prepositional phrase at the end of the line.) It's JUST NOT GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT.

Make it "But in this ever changing world in which we're living..." and it works, both rhythmically and grammatically.


Steph L. - Jun 22, 2010 8:07:32 am PDT #8147 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

So, all the people who sing "Do You Know What It Means to Miss New Orleans," including the people who are from there, are DOIN IT RONG? That is seriously fucking hilarious.

I make an exception for the sake of rhyming in songs. But only good songs.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not and you think that song is crap.

t edit I mean, I don't have a problem with you not liking the song; I'm just having trouble with nuances of the written word, that's all.


Dana - Jun 22, 2010 8:08:58 am PDT #8148 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not and you think that song is crap.

Nope. Not sarcasm. The song's a classic.


smonster - Jun 22, 2010 8:09:31 am PDT #8149 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Right. Back to this statement - my condensed response would be that those people are making extremely problematic assumptions based on a heteronormative and static interpretation of others' sexual identity.

And really, I need to add: "based on a socially constructed and questionable gender/sex binary."


Daisy Jane - Jun 22, 2010 8:09:35 am PDT #8150 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

My favorite is "Goin' Back to Louisiana," because it pronounces Louisiana the way I do, and yet still with the "New Orleenz."


§ ita § - Jun 22, 2010 8:10:09 am PDT #8151 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Something I saw go relatively unchallenged in the gawker thread was the idea that if you haven't slept with both genders, you couldn't be bi. Which was weird, because most people seem okay with the idea of straight virgins--so it's incredibly heteronormative.

If ending up with a guy made a bi woman straight, being celibate would make me asexual, surely?