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Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


NoiseDesign - Jun 15, 2010 10:29:08 am PDT #6737 of 30001
Our wings are not tired

Much of the budget problem is related to the fact that property taxes are kept very low. In the 70s Prop 13 capped property tax increases at, I believe 1% annually. Basically much lower than the rate of inflation. They are only reassessed when property is sold and can then increase to the current property value. This led to a very real real estate market that is biased towards not moving and rather just improving the property. As a result you have million dollar homes with $1000 annual property tax. My moms house is worth around half a million and the property tax is around $400.


flea - Jun 15, 2010 10:30:04 am PDT #6738 of 30001
information libertarian

Many sewer bills do vary in amount, proportional to your water consumption. (Because that water goes down the sewer, mostly, unless you water your lawn a lot.)


Sue - Jun 15, 2010 10:34:35 am PDT #6739 of 30001
hip deep in pie

My water bills are based on usage, and are about $60 quarterly. I think sewage is part of our property taxes. Hfx just spent hundreds of millions on a a sewage treatment system that promptly flooded and broke.


Steph L. - Jun 15, 2010 10:35:37 am PDT #6740 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Mother conjures an image of a female person.

To me, mother conjures an image of a female person with offspring (biological or no).

ita, speaking of mothers, YOUR MOM'S BIRTHDAY IS SUNDAY (which is also Father's Day).


javachik - Jun 15, 2010 10:36:10 am PDT #6741 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Someone posted a good article about Prop 13 on Facebook; let me see if I can find it.

Here it is: [link]


Jesse - Jun 15, 2010 10:36:24 am PDT #6742 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I am increasingly glad that I've never paid a water or sewer bill. They have always been included in my rent.


Kat - Jun 15, 2010 10:38:18 am PDT #6743 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

My water bill is about $30/month. I'd be shocked if I got a near-$100 water bill, even in the summer.

Amusingly, my water/sewer bill comes bundled with my trash bill. It's about $50 bimonthly for all 3.

WEEPS. Our water/sewer/trash/electric all come together and is over $150/month.


§ ita § - Jun 15, 2010 10:39:05 am PDT #6744 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

YOUR MOM'S BIRTHDAY IS SUNDAY (which is also Father's Day).

You know, I will pout if you don't mention it, so thanks for the heads up.

My poor sister is freaking out with what to do for the 'rents on the dual day. She bought them tickets to a benefit, and they decided not to go. Which...she thinks means she has to get them something else, but the rest of us think the donation to charity in their name is good enough. Plus dinner.

Me? Ecards and a phone call. Sucks to not be me.


Kat - Jun 15, 2010 10:39:33 am PDT #6745 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

My mom just called me in the middle of class (granted we aren't doing anything as I had to turn grades in two weeks ago) to ask if I wanted anythign from Trader Joes. Seriously.


brenda m - Jun 15, 2010 10:40:43 am PDT #6746 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

My electric and gas bill is based on the amount of electricity and gas I use, so it's irritating that nearly all of my water bill is flat fees that have nothing to do with how much water I use.

That's pretty much how my gas bill looks too - the fixed costs and fees far outweigh the actual consumption.