Well, look who just popped open a fresh can of venom.

Xander ,'Empty Places'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


JZ - Jun 13, 2010 7:38:28 pm PDT #6389 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Random mememe:

Ugh. I'm 99.4% certain I'm breaking up with my parish. Today's 9:30 homily was pretty much It. The priest (one of the new ones brought in over the last 6 years since Cesar Chavez's spiritual advisor died and his best friend was forced into retirement and the young gay radical priest had to take a medical leave after three heart attacks in his 40s from stress) started reasonably well with a few sentences on forgiving those who've done us great evil, and how there is a special grace in that, and JPII meeting with the man who tried to assassinate him, and it seemed more or less okay. And then he went off about how we need to recognize that we as a society are guilty of not just great evil, but of embracing great evil and calling it good. The next three sentences were the last things I heard before the rage-out descended: "We reward laziness and call it welfare. We kill our unborn and call it freedom of choice. We pollute our air with profanity and pornography and call it freedom of expression."

The reminder that as a pro-choice, post-abortion woman I'm unwelcome pretty well sucked but was as per usual of late; it wasn't even the thing that pissed me off most. I'm still, hours later, STILL gobsmacked over the un-Catholic, un-Christian, uncharitable ignorant cruel nastiness of the welfare crack (does he know one fucking thing about how public assistance works in this country? Does he know how many of his parishioners are on some form of public assistance, or would cry with gratitude at how much easier their lives would be if they even qualified for it?) and the sheer blithering inanity of the remark about bad words and porn. The economy in shambles, the longest war in US history dragging on with no end in sight and with badly damaged veterans treated shamefully, unstoppable environmental disaster about to crush the region Katrina brought to its knees (and whose perpetrators will likely never be brought to more than token justice), and, oh, yes, the continuing pedophilia coverup clusterfuck, and THIS is what he wastes precious time and energy ranting at us about?

Useless. Useless. Small. Shabby. Vile.

And when I got home after this long, long day, the first thing I found on the computer was a despairing stick-a-fork-in-me-I'm-done email from a friend at this same parish.

There's a Newman Center parish near our apartment that's committed to inclusive language and secretly/openly fighting for women's ordination. When Matilda and I go there I don't feel enraged and queasy and despairing. It's kind of refreshing.


DavidS - Jun 13, 2010 7:38:43 pm PDT #6390 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

(It's Toronto, though.)

I can't keep track of Canadian cities!

Toronto - like Manhattan in the midwest. Across the lake from Detroit.

Montreal - French! Bagels!

Vancouver - the Portland of the north.

Calgary - Stampede!

Winnipeg - Guy Maddin! The Jets! A two year run of Phantom of the Paradise!


Lee - Jun 13, 2010 7:46:09 pm PDT #6391 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Ugh, JZ. I'm sorry you had such a bad experience. I hope the Newman Center can fill the gap, and leave a better taste in your mouth.


Steph L. - Jun 13, 2010 7:46:35 pm PDT #6392 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Oh, JZ, I know how much you loved your parish -- this has got to be such a blow.


beekaytee - Jun 13, 2010 7:47:50 pm PDT #6393 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

How awful JZ. I'm so sorry that the community you have counted on is letting you down in this way.


brenda m - Jun 13, 2010 7:50:45 pm PDT #6394 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I'm so sorry JZ. I know how hard this must be for you, but maybe Newman Center is the better option. (As an aside, I didn't realize that was a thing - there was a Newman Center down the block from our house in Milwaukee.)

I can't keep track of Canadian cities!

Nah, you've got them pretty much down.


meara - Jun 13, 2010 8:39:59 pm PDT #6395 of 30001

Oh, JZ, that's a shame. But you should definitely SAY something--forget the abortion thing and the rest, the welfare crack is just Not On. I mean, however you want to be preaching that sermon, and regardless of whether the subject matter is appropriate, whatever...that crack is just not right, and he needs to be called out.

Crazy? Irresponsible? Just tired of work?

Probably. But does that mean you shouldn't do it? Will you get in trouble? Will people be put out by you doing it, have to cover your classes, learn less, etc? Or are students already done/subs paid for (going to earn money for it!)/they were watching videos anyway?


Trudy Booth - Jun 13, 2010 8:50:47 pm PDT #6396 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

And the Pawz do help her with traction, although she doesn't need them every day. [link]

Hee! We do the just-rear-pawz too. Soooo cute.


Trudy Booth - Jun 13, 2010 8:51:06 pm PDT #6397 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Oh JZ, I'm so sorry. Grr.


Vortex - Jun 13, 2010 9:02:04 pm PDT #6398 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I am not Catholic, and have no dog in this fight, but I can sort of work with abortion rhetoric because they say that it violates their beliefs. I disagree, but recognize the point as having some validity. The welfare thing, however, I cannot get behind, because social justice and caring for the less fortunate is a BASIC TENET of the religion. I think that you should definitely make a stink.