I don't fancy spending the next month trying to get librarian out of the carpet.

Spike ,'Chosen'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Typo Boy - Jun 12, 2010 5:39:59 pm PDT #6232 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Restraining order? Believe not difficult to get a preliminary one, though tough to get made permanent or final. But if some crumbs of sanity remain, a restraining order will sometimes be enough to doblerize even if the only the preliminary (or whatever you call it) is awarded and is not granted once the judge does the full thing (very legal term) - actual lawyers on this board can explain this but I think I have the essence right. There is a kind restraining order that is easy to get, but it is really just a temporary thing while the judge decides whether to grant some more permanent. The more permanent/real one is NOT easy to get.

But yeah get advice from woman's shelter. RO may or may not be worth doing.


Cashmere - Jun 12, 2010 5:46:53 pm PDT #6233 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Msbelle, Owen recorded video with our webcam on FB. You can post video on your own wall and others' as well.


Jesse - Jun 12, 2010 5:46:59 pm PDT #6234 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Carolyn Hax (my favorite advice columnist) generally recommends calling the National Domestic Violence Hotline, 1-800-799 SAFE -- they'll have advice.


sarameg - Jun 12, 2010 5:53:08 pm PDT #6235 of 30001

I need to get Loki a halter and a leash. (He bolted again and is now crying as if he's dying. I looked today, but they were out at petsmart.) He really likes being outside, but I want him within 5 ft of me.


Zenkitty - Jun 12, 2010 5:58:12 pm PDT #6236 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I am delighted, because the magazine was one of the ones I thought was lost forever.

Yay!

My friend G. is now giving me reasons why everything I suggest is not workable. Right down to, the phone company is not reliable, oh and her mother might call.


Steph L. - Jun 12, 2010 5:59:46 pm PDT #6237 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I agree with do not engage at all, not one bit.

This. If he calls 100 times and she finally answers on the 101st call, it just "proves" to him that persistence works.

I agree with calling the National Domestic Violence Hotline and/or a shelter.


Jesse - Jun 12, 2010 6:00:05 pm PDT #6238 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I really think your main suggestion should be to get expert advice.


msbelle - Jun 12, 2010 6:03:43 pm PDT #6239 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

5 more listings up on ebay. WHOOT!

If her mom calls she will leave a message. I have the ringer off on my phone and I still get messages! If she is really arguing against anything, then you can't do anything for her. If it would piss her off and maybe make her consider what you are saying, I would suggest that perhaps she likes the attention if she is unwilling to anything to thwart it. But you know, there's a risk in that.


sarameg - Jun 12, 2010 6:11:48 pm PDT #6240 of 30001

Tell your friend to call a shelter/hotline (I said local because they know the jurisdictional shit) NOW. They can get through her head if anyone can. And that's not complicated. And what msbelle said.


Zenkitty - Jun 12, 2010 6:12:41 pm PDT #6241 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I've told her not to engage. As long as she's still arguing with him, it's not over. I think that may have got through to her. Part of the problem is, she's still in love with him. She just can't deal with the alcoholism and the crazy self-destructive juvenile behavior and suddenly being the other woman. And I just found out, he's never introduced her to any of his friends or family. Seriously?