That's not what making out sounds like -- unless I'm doing it wrong?

Willow ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Zenkitty - Jun 07, 2010 6:13:17 am PDT #4706 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

"Sorry doesn't always fix it."

True, of course, but I'm reminded of my saintly grandmother spitting "Sorry doesn't help!" at me and stalking away, leaving me in tears, because if a sincere apology couldn't mend an angry word or a broken glass, what else could be done? I was left feeling like I was just basically a terrible person, which I'm sure is what she wanted. She blamed a lot of shit on me that wasn't my fault. Like my mom's divorce. I was four, for fuck's sake.

Ah, I love the smell of festering resentment in the morning.


billytea - Jun 07, 2010 6:16:28 am PDT #4707 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

My little boy (who has yet to learn the joys of whining) has been fighting a tummy bug. He had a fever yesterday, though with some children's Panadol he was in good spirits. He did well today until shortly before dinner, when he started crying for no apparent reason. He refused half his dinner and threw up the rest.

He's asleep now. He's woken up crying once, but his discomfort appears to be no match for daddy cuddles. I hope he'll feel better tomorrow, gastric upsets usually don't last too long.


Jessica - Jun 07, 2010 6:24:40 am PDT #4708 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Good news for Noah and Grace!

A nearly 25-year study concluded that children raised in lesbian households were psychologically well-adjusted and had fewer behavioral problems than their peers.

Gartrell started the study in 1986. She recruited subjects through announcements in bookstores, lesbian events and newspapers throughout metro Boston, Massachusetts; San Francisco, California, and Washington.

The mothers were interviewed during pregnancy or the insemination process, and additionally when the children were 2, 5, 10 and 17 years old. Those children are now 18 to 23 years old.

They were interviewed four times as they matured and also completed an online questionnaire at age 17, focusing on their psychological adjustment, peer and family relationships and academic progress.

To assess their well-being, Gartrell used the Child Behavior Checklist, a commonly used standard to measure children's behavioral and social problems, such as anxiety, depression, aggressive behavior and social competence.

Children from lesbian families rated higher in social, academic and total competence. They also showed lower rates in social, rule-breaking, aggressive problem behavior.


Jesse - Jun 07, 2010 6:30:35 am PDT #4709 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

OMG, office politics. I just don't even know.


§ ita § - Jun 07, 2010 6:46:51 am PDT #4710 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Interesting collection of interviews with showrunners and lead writers. Includes John Rogers, Jane Espenson, Zack Stentz, Amy Berg, Javier Grillo-Marxuach.

I am having schedule panic. I just don't even know.


Jesse - Jun 07, 2010 6:53:09 am PDT #4711 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Of course, my problem is that I literally don't know. I just found out that apparently some people weren't that psyched about working with my predecessor, which is causing some of the pushback I've been feeling from people. Most of it is caused by other secret underground issues, but ugh. And oy.


P.M. Marc - Jun 07, 2010 6:53:30 am PDT #4712 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I can still physically overpower mac, it is just that doing so is destructive to our relationship. I shouldn't really include myself in these parental strategy discussions. The hurt child/attachment issues world is an upside down one where opposite behaviors prevail.

It's actually really helpful for me, because Lily has never responded to the techniques for parenting that most people use. They make her defiant or an emotional wreck in a counterproductive way. Paul picked up this book [link] which we're halfway through reading. We'll see how it goes.


msbelle - Jun 07, 2010 6:53:42 am PDT #4713 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

oh noes, new job already?!

I have cranked through a tone of work already. I think I should go home even earlier than my early departure. alas...


msbelle - Jun 07, 2010 7:05:26 am PDT #4714 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Plei - this is a book that is next on my list [link] . I am already using some of the techniques with good results. The book may be WAY more than your needs, but I bet the strategies would be in the right vein if she reacts opposite what is expected to consequence/reward approaches.


Amy - Jun 07, 2010 7:09:21 am PDT #4715 of 30001
Because books.

Round robin alert: smonster, I got the box, thank you! Jesse, give me a day or two and it'll be on the way to you.

Jake is *still* oppositional and defiant at eighteen. We've never found one technique that works consistently with him. Ben and Sara being so mild-mannered is a relief.