Mal: And I never back down from a fight. Inara: Yes, you do! You do all the time!
'Shindig'
Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Polter-Cow - Jun 01, 2010 10:12:16 am PDT #3046 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
tommyrot - Jun 01, 2010 10:12:43 am PDT #3047 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Awesome! Thanks, P-C.
§ ita § - Jun 01, 2010 10:14:35 am PDT #3048 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think there's value in saying "Hey, I'm sure you didn't mean to sound homophobic there, but slash doesn't mean porn" to give the authors a chance to correct themselves.
I don't know if that was what was happening elsewhere (which is a silly place for it to happen), but what happened on Scalzi's blog was someone throwing a snitfit and calling him a homophobe. Which? Doing too much work to get offended. And I don't think that thinking slash means porn has anything to do with homophobia. I totally fail at that. I think it means they're oversexualising a fanfiction definition, that's all.
Jessica - Jun 01, 2010 10:21:54 am PDT #3049 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
what happened on Scalzi's blog was someone throwing a snitfit and calling him a homophobe.
I didn't see it that way at all - I thought the whole conversation was pretty civil on all sides, compared to your average comment thread.
§ ita § - Jun 01, 2010 10:27:23 am PDT #3050 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'm guessing you didn't get as far as this comment:
Really? Hello homophobic people.
You want to raise money for a Lupus Foundation but you don’t want the gay to come in the way.
This is insulting and disgusting.
I understand no NC17, but that would be for any kind of fiction.
I would be sure to let everyone know how homophobic you all are...
What does the "a lot of flack from the fannish community" consist of? Is that the civil conversation? I thought you meant more umbrage was taken than that. I agree that it's not much of anything other than pointing stuff out.
Unrelatedly, my shoe straps are breaking. I feel like a slob.
ChiKat - Jun 01, 2010 10:32:24 am PDT #3051 of 30001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
slash doesn't mean porn
Not being a reader of fanfic, I thought slash did indeed = porn
Dana - Jun 01, 2010 10:33:47 am PDT #3052 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
No, it's perfectly possible to have a story about a same-sex relationship which is not explicit.
My problem is when people insist that a story be labeled explicit simply because it contains a same-sex relationship. Which still happens, yes.
(Also, in terms of the "fannish community" being up in arms, I don't think I've seen anyone discussing the Scalzi thing.)
ChiKat - Jun 01, 2010 10:34:45 am PDT #3053 of 30001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
So, slash = same sex, romantic relationship. May or may not be explicit?
Vortex - Jun 01, 2010 10:35:12 am PDT #3054 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
right.
ChiKat - Jun 01, 2010 10:37:04 am PDT #3055 of 30001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
Got it.
OMG this day has been so freakin' slow. This does not bode well for the rest of the week.
Internet is back up, but I'm headed out of here in 10 minutes.