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'Heart Of Gold'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Sep 27, 2010 1:14:33 pm PDT #26337 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

In terms of bone density, pushing harder at any age is the only thing that will improve it. But load-bearing exercise only builds up bone in your legs, leaving your hipbones to get increasingly fragile.

(Reading a book about astronauts right now. Techniques for preventing bone loss have barely changed since the 60's.)


Zenkitty - Sep 27, 2010 1:16:14 pm PDT #26338 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Yeah, Mother Nature doesn't care if we feel good; all that matters is that we're healthy enough to reproduce a few times before we're 25. After that, if we live long enough, we can help raise our kids' kids and pass along the wisdom of our years, and if we don't, eh. The tribe only really needs one wise grandmother and one wise grandfather.


Zenkitty - Sep 27, 2010 1:17:50 pm PDT #26339 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

But load-bearing exercise only builds up bone in your legs, leaving your hipbones to get increasingly fragile.

Doesn't walking keep the hipbones and spine strong too?


Spidra Webster - Sep 27, 2010 1:19:43 pm PDT #26340 of 30001
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

ita, what Ginger said. It's Monday - a work day - and no one but the one assistant can do this??

tommyrot - I think that's become a popular thing to say but I don't believe it's strictly true. We humans evolved for a life on the savannah hunting & gathering food. Lots of walking, squatting, standing, running, climbing trees... not sitting at least 8 hours a day in front of a computer and hunched forward. I think to a large degree our problem is that civilized modern man has developed ways of being that are fundamentally unhealthy. And we have so much invested in it economically that it's not likely to change (a lot is invested in the assembly line model even when it's not on an actual assembly line. Specialization is king. Don't take breaks or you're a slacker. We can't design everything to be ergonomic because that would cost too much.) Humans have not had the time to evolve whatever form would be better suited to hunching over computers and/or doing repetitive motions all day. And improvements in medical technology have done a lot to slow down strict Darwinian evolution.


Jessica - Sep 27, 2010 1:20:33 pm PDT #26341 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Doesn't walking keep the hipbones and spine strong too?

Surprisngly, not so much. (Which is why even really active senior citizens can fall and break a hip. It's usually the other way around - the hipbone breaks, causing a fall.)

[eta: Specifically, the outside of the hips, which don't bear much weight under normal walking or exercise conditions.]


Zenkitty - Sep 27, 2010 1:23:13 pm PDT #26342 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Surprisngly, not so much. (Which is why even really active senior citizens can fall and break a hip. It's usually the other way around - the hipbone breaks, causing a fall.)

Planned obsolescence! Nature invented it first.


Spidra Webster - Sep 27, 2010 1:26:48 pm PDT #26343 of 30001
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

ION, my mom gave me a shoulder-specific icepack because it was too big for her AIFG! My left shoulder and arm today feel like someone tried to hack them off with an axe.


Jesse - Sep 27, 2010 1:31:12 pm PDT #26344 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I am excited to report that I still have some cooking mojo. I've been kind of out of the habit and/or making things I didn't love. I had some unknown winter squash that I roasted last week, so I just made it into a cream soup with a shallot, some ginger, and some cumin. Delish! And super fast and easy, since the squash was already roasted. Note to self.


Spidra Webster - Sep 27, 2010 1:38:28 pm PDT #26345 of 30001
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

Sounds good!

King Arthur Flour site has loads of great recipes. Someone just posted this one that's like homemade Twix bars. Don't click it if you're on a diet... [link]


§ ita § - Sep 27, 2010 2:02:47 pm PDT #26346 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

IT guy is switching my laptop. This better be over soon. And they're taking my 22" monitor away. Apparently the cool kids like flatscreen LCDs. Whatever.

Bored now.