Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Stephanie - Sep 24, 2010 5:34:15 pm PDT #25937 of 30001
Trust my rage

Shakira is one of about 3 women who I think are truly sexually attractive to me.


smonster - Sep 24, 2010 5:35:21 pm PDT #25938 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Love me some Shakira. That is all.

eta not quite all. Her video for Wherever Whenever is what sparked my interest in bellydance.


-t - Sep 24, 2010 5:38:58 pm PDT #25939 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, sara, I don't think I've said, I'm so sorry for your loss. That it's also a loss of family memory, a whole grief on its own in addition to yours for losing Carol herself.


sarameg - Sep 24, 2010 5:46:24 pm PDT #25940 of 30001

Carol helped me to understand my grandmother at a time when we were very much at odds. Without her, I would still have a very negative view of Grandma Karin. Instead, I appreciate and understand her, though I hated and scraped against her bias against girls. Know where she got that, too bad, because frankly, her own path was proto-feminist. She just resented her own.


Jessica - Sep 24, 2010 5:50:04 pm PDT #25941 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I remember really hating Reviving Ophelia when I read it as a teen - the author kept comparing her own childhood to her patients' and never seemed to acknowledge that there might be more to it than a generation gap. (You know, like the fact that as a psychiatrist, she's seeing a very skewed sample group of modern adolescent girls. Or that she grew up in a small town but treats kids in a big city. Or any other of a million factors other that "the fifties were so much nicer.")

That and the endless tortured weather metaphors. Those got old fast.


DavidS - Sep 24, 2010 5:51:18 pm PDT #25942 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What's the name of the book, Hec?

These two supremely trashy volumes Hollywood Babylon - It's Back and Hollywood Babylon Strikes Again.

Not the original Kenneth Anger books but more recent scuttlebut.

They're pretty dicey and make some outrageous claims. But at the same time, they do have some useful sources and when you realize that Hepburn/Tracy was a "New York Marriage" the coin drops.

It's interesting knowing which actors hustled before they got their break (Lucille Ball, Richard Gere). I didn't realize Cesar Romero was gay, even though his portrayal of The Joker should've tipped me.

It's funny to know that Barbara Stanwyck (who mostly preferred women, but had relationships with younger men as she got older, famously William Holden and Robert Wagner) told Bogie "I run the fuck!" when she hooked up with him for a second time. (Their first time was before they were stars and she was just a chorus girl, Ruby Stevens, from Brooklyn.)

You kind of see these lines of loyalty and betrayal that linger on through Hollywood. I vividly remember Barbara Stanwyck, then in her seventies, giving out some award (honorary Oscar?) to William Holden and there just being a tremendous amount of feeling and affection between them. (She was in her fifties and he was 22 when she fought to get him his first role, and taught him how to act and they were lovers for about five years.)

Kate Hepburn didn't date other Hollywood actresses so much; she had long lasting affairs with high society heiress types.

Here are the answers on the cocks, btw.

Montana Mule - Gary Cooper. Famously hung, and also a fabulous lover. Some Euro royalty older woman took him under her wing and taught him a thing or two.

Black Snack - George Raft, who had a very dark dick.

Jawbreaker - Franchot Tone, who was bisexual. As many of the stars of the 30s and 40s seemed to be.

John Wayne had a disappointingly teeny weeny. He claimed Marlene Dietrich was his best lay. She described him in bed as "weak lemonade."

Mickey Mantle said his best sex ever was with Doris Day.

David Niven (hung like a beer can apparently) was visiting in Monaco and the Prince asked who his best Hollywood sex was with. Niven blurted out "Grace!" without thinking and was no longer welcome.


meara - Sep 24, 2010 6:12:56 pm PDT #25943 of 30001

I, too, immediately thought of Law and Order with the baseball birth certificate thing! :)

And I watched LoneStar, though I wasn't super impressed, I figure what the heck, I'll give it a shot. I kinda thought it was one of those things that if it gets awesome and everyone is like "I LOVE that show!", it would be a PITA to catch up on. :) (Just like how now, I am not a FNL watcher because I didn't start, and now there's so much to catch up on. Though I did start The Good Wife halfway through the season last year, mostly I hate starting in the middle.

And I also love the friendships on Grey's. WAY much moreso than the romances. Like last year(?) when Mere and Derek were planning a house, and she told Christina "that's your room". :)


§ ita § - Sep 24, 2010 6:19:31 pm PDT #25944 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I also love the friendships on Grey's. WAY much moreso than the romances

I love the friendships, and I love Yang's romances. She gets the best men.

Speaking of Kinsey tweaking, there's a Red poster with a picture of Helen Mirren that almost had me drive off the road. Damn, woman.


DavidS - Sep 24, 2010 6:23:41 pm PDT #25945 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Helen Mirren with a gun.

Vampire Sigourney Weaver.

Man, it's like I'm running Hollywood.


tommyrot - Sep 24, 2010 6:36:51 pm PDT #25946 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Huh. There is only one company authorized by the BBC to make official, full-size Daleks for sale to the public. They cost £2995. They also sell a full-size (on the outside, anyway) TARDIS for the same price.

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