Willow: Yes. Hi. You must be Angel's handsome, yet androgynous, son. Connor: It's Connor. Willow: And the sneer's genetic. Who knew?

'A Hole in the World'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Sep 24, 2010 5:51:18 pm PDT #25942 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What's the name of the book, Hec?

These two supremely trashy volumes Hollywood Babylon - It's Back and Hollywood Babylon Strikes Again.

Not the original Kenneth Anger books but more recent scuttlebut.

They're pretty dicey and make some outrageous claims. But at the same time, they do have some useful sources and when you realize that Hepburn/Tracy was a "New York Marriage" the coin drops.

It's interesting knowing which actors hustled before they got their break (Lucille Ball, Richard Gere). I didn't realize Cesar Romero was gay, even though his portrayal of The Joker should've tipped me.

It's funny to know that Barbara Stanwyck (who mostly preferred women, but had relationships with younger men as she got older, famously William Holden and Robert Wagner) told Bogie "I run the fuck!" when she hooked up with him for a second time. (Their first time was before they were stars and she was just a chorus girl, Ruby Stevens, from Brooklyn.)

You kind of see these lines of loyalty and betrayal that linger on through Hollywood. I vividly remember Barbara Stanwyck, then in her seventies, giving out some award (honorary Oscar?) to William Holden and there just being a tremendous amount of feeling and affection between them. (She was in her fifties and he was 22 when she fought to get him his first role, and taught him how to act and they were lovers for about five years.)

Kate Hepburn didn't date other Hollywood actresses so much; she had long lasting affairs with high society heiress types.

Here are the answers on the cocks, btw.

Montana Mule - Gary Cooper. Famously hung, and also a fabulous lover. Some Euro royalty older woman took him under her wing and taught him a thing or two.

Black Snack - George Raft, who had a very dark dick.

Jawbreaker - Franchot Tone, who was bisexual. As many of the stars of the 30s and 40s seemed to be.

John Wayne had a disappointingly teeny weeny. He claimed Marlene Dietrich was his best lay. She described him in bed as "weak lemonade."

Mickey Mantle said his best sex ever was with Doris Day.

David Niven (hung like a beer can apparently) was visiting in Monaco and the Prince asked who his best Hollywood sex was with. Niven blurted out "Grace!" without thinking and was no longer welcome.


meara - Sep 24, 2010 6:12:56 pm PDT #25943 of 30001

I, too, immediately thought of Law and Order with the baseball birth certificate thing! :)

And I watched LoneStar, though I wasn't super impressed, I figure what the heck, I'll give it a shot. I kinda thought it was one of those things that if it gets awesome and everyone is like "I LOVE that show!", it would be a PITA to catch up on. :) (Just like how now, I am not a FNL watcher because I didn't start, and now there's so much to catch up on. Though I did start The Good Wife halfway through the season last year, mostly I hate starting in the middle.

And I also love the friendships on Grey's. WAY much moreso than the romances. Like last year(?) when Mere and Derek were planning a house, and she told Christina "that's your room". :)


§ ita § - Sep 24, 2010 6:19:31 pm PDT #25944 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I also love the friendships on Grey's. WAY much moreso than the romances

I love the friendships, and I love Yang's romances. She gets the best men.

Speaking of Kinsey tweaking, there's a Red poster with a picture of Helen Mirren that almost had me drive off the road. Damn, woman.


DavidS - Sep 24, 2010 6:23:41 pm PDT #25945 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Helen Mirren with a gun.

Vampire Sigourney Weaver.

Man, it's like I'm running Hollywood.


tommyrot - Sep 24, 2010 6:36:51 pm PDT #25946 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Huh. There is only one company authorized by the BBC to make official, full-size Daleks for sale to the public. They cost £2995. They also sell a full-size (on the outside, anyway) TARDIS for the same price.

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shrift - Sep 24, 2010 7:00:41 pm PDT #25947 of 30001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Speaking of Kinsey tweaking, there's a Red poster with a picture of Helen Mirren that almost had me drive off the road. Damn, woman.

UNF UNF UNF HI HELLO.


Connie Neil - Sep 24, 2010 7:14:32 pm PDT #25948 of 30001
brillig

"I kill people, dear."


shrift - Sep 24, 2010 8:18:11 pm PDT #25949 of 30001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I've gotten myself into a giggle spiral thanks to Billy Connolly comedy clips on YouTube. Ow. It hurts.


§ ita § - Sep 24, 2010 8:36:12 pm PDT #25950 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

doesn't seem like it has enough lines.


DavidS - Sep 24, 2010 8:56:23 pm PDT #25951 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Randomly Gleened TV Tidbit:

The Waltons' house is still used as scenery at Warner Brothers. For example, it served as the Dragonfly Inn on Gilmore Girls.

I love hearing about repurposed sets. I know that RKO used the Magnificent Ambersons sets (which almost bankrupted them) for lots of the horror movies that Val Lewton did (which saved RKO).

Also, the original Frankenstein lab props were resused many, many times over the years, well into the 70s. I think they were even used in Young Frankenstein.

Go props and standing sets!