Wouldn't a birth certificate be proof of citizenship, msbelle?

Oy. This week is going to kill me. Insomnia up the yin yang. I was a zombie yesterday already, and now I've been up since 2. Here's to hoping the CIO doesn't keep us late again today. And that I remember/have enough energy to grocery shop.

Trudy, I think you'll find doing two 10-hour days the easiest. When I got out of the Navy, I took 3 months to drive from San Diego to Jacksonville, Fl, up to Maine and then through Canada to Wisconsin. I stopped to sight see maybe every other day, (plus stayed with friends and family for various amounts of time, hence, three months) but the days I didn't, I found that 10 hours was about optimum. It got me around 600 miles and I could be in a hotel before dark. This time of year, that's a lot easier to do. (I was traveling in March.)

A passport IS proof of identity and citizenship. Everyone should accept that, and it doesn't matter if it's expired. That's ridonkulous. Fought a couple of HR departments on that for I-9's.

So, texas requires proof of citizenship to transfer my current/non-expired license from ny. Is that normal?

It's new. I went to get mine renewed last week and they wouldn't do it without an SS card.

Wouldn't a birth certificate be proof of citizenship, msbelle?

Nope. Cause I had that and my marriage certificate with me.

That seems pretty dumb. I mean, my SS card is from 1980, and it's some crappy piece of blue paper that's all tore up. I could quite possibly have made it in my 2nd grade art class.

Much non-murder~ma, Aims.

They wouldn't even accept my passport as proof of identity!

That seems odd. I mean, if it's good enough to tell every boarder guard in the world that you're a US citizen, it seems it should be good enough for the DMV.

But can't you get an SS card even if you're not a citizen? As opposed to a birth certificate, which seems pretty cut and dried.

(A co-worker of mine has to get a new birth certificate because he was born in PR, and his doesn't have the right kind of watermark or something. Seems to me having a birth certificate that's the same age as you would be LESS suspicious than having a brand-new one, but hey what do I know.)

In California, I couldn't get away with just my NY license, I had to show a birth certificate or passport and, annoyingly, the name on my license had to match it exactly, so, even though I just wanted to use my middle initial, like every other document and credit card I carry around, I had to use my whole middle name.

Ooh, cause the aloe always dries right up, Smonster? Awesome. Will have to try next time (since I cannot fool myself that I will not have another bad sunburn).

Yes! Exactly! And there's no fragrance or anything to irritate your skin. I'm wearing a strapless bra today, which is not fun but beats the pain of shoulder straps.

I need to turn in my mommy card. I knew better than to start a certain conversation and yet I dove in anyway. Now the girl won't come out of her room.

Awww, Suzi. It'll be okay. Sometimes being a mommy is having hard conversations that make for awkward times.

That's a fur piece driving solo.

Let me know if you need a place to stay in NC, okay? I have a foldout couch and Frankie loves all doggies. The cats would likely just disappear. NY to NC is about 10 hrs, depending on how you hit traffic.