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Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kathy A - Jul 09, 2010 9:29:54 am PDT #11455 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Yeah, all three of us kids did the move-back-home thing at various point in our lives. Both my sis and I did a year or so after graduating from college when we were laid off from our jobs, and my brother did two years ago when he separated from his now ex-wife. When Mom told me last year that he wasn't paying rent, she thought I was criticizing her and pointed out that he's just doing what we did in our early 20s. Doesn't bother me--now that she's in her 70s and living alone, I think she really likes having him around, and it eases all of our minds that he's there for her when neither sis nor I are even in the same time zone.


Polter-Cow - Jul 09, 2010 9:30:31 am PDT #11456 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I don't think Mailroom to Management happens much anymore.

I don't know about Mailroom to Management, but in my company, I know of several people who have worked their way up from admin positions.


Jessica - Jul 09, 2010 9:31:22 am PDT #11457 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Eh, the job he turned down does not pay all that much for a major metropolitan area.

It's almost exactly what I make, in NYC, with a kid in fulltime daycare, and I've been out of college 10 years.

[I'm not saying it's a lot, but it's well above a living wage, especially for someone just out of school.]


Amy - Jul 09, 2010 9:31:29 am PDT #11458 of 30001
Because books.

Yeah, it was a little startling, Jess. I mean, she at least wouldn't eat any cookies I ever offered her. She was a doll, but she was definitely the picky type -- she wouldn't try Maine blueberries or fresh strawberries either. Half the time she just didn't have snack.


javachik - Jul 09, 2010 9:40:05 am PDT #11459 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

The thing that gets me about that NYT article is that it makes it very clear that his father and grandfather paid their dues by starting at the bottom rung of a corporate workplace. Sometimes I think that modern (last 20 years) graduates think they're deserving to start mid-tier instead of entry level. If you've got ambition and can work hard, you can definitely climb the ladder. But it shouldn't be handed to you.

ETA: And as P-C pointed out, it's still possible in a lot of companies to start off as an admin and work your way up. And I know it first hand, because I went from admin to marketing manager at Oracle and then started all over again in the biotech industry 6 years ago. I got a temp job in 2004 as an EA and now I'm a director. So it can be done.


lisah - Jul 09, 2010 9:41:10 am PDT #11460 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

The picky two-year old "sniffed a grape and licked a cracker" for dinner the other night, reportedly.


flea - Jul 09, 2010 9:44:47 am PDT #11461 of 30001
information libertarian

The NYT guy is also not taking advantage of the opportunities he has, with no need to support himself. If he was really a go-getter, he'd be doing unpaid internships, getting experience for a resume, networking, that sort of thing! I mean, volunteer fire department is nice, but if he wants to be a financial high-flyer, he needs to show some professional initiative.


§ ita § - Jul 09, 2010 9:46:05 am PDT #11462 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

ita, if you're not eating and can't face solid food, could you maybe manage a protein shake of some sort?

Now that you mention it, maybe I will actually leave the building and head to Robek's.

I could share some of Grace's blend with you! This one is actually tasty if you like strawberries.... and it's 1.1 calorie per mL.

Or I could try this and explode! Damn, man.


javachik - Jul 09, 2010 9:48:58 am PDT #11463 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

flea, yep!

Hey foodies, I am having dinner with my friend Carol and a bunch of foodie friends when she comes out to visit from DC in late July. I was just looking at the other listed invitees for our dinner at Contigo and one of the guys runs this site: [link]

Thought it might interest ya.


Kathy A - Jul 09, 2010 9:50:45 am PDT #11464 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Huh--Rachel Maddow's high school yearbook pic.