Gavin, ask yourself this question. What are you more afraid of, a giant murderous demon or me?

Lilah ,'Destiny'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Trudy Booth - Jan 26, 2010 8:13:23 pm PST #4307 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Hipsters don't own houses. They live in shabby bedsits, or in squats or possibly starve in the garret.

Only if they've blown their trust fund allotment for the year. They'll be back in the loft soon.

As far as self-identifying... if you put on a tiny straw fedora you have, intentionally or otherwise, self-identified as a hipster.


Connie Neil - Jan 26, 2010 8:21:50 pm PST #4308 of 30001
brillig

So I have to buy a dozen eggs just to use one egg!

Many stores sell half-dozen cartons. And if you're not careful, you could discover omelets. Or other baking things. And then a half-dozen will be too few.


DavidS - Jan 26, 2010 8:24:17 pm PST #4309 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I guess I will have to figure out what to do with eleven more eggs.

Deviled eggs.

I'm going to conclude that hipsters are a largely mythical being existing only to be the subject of other people's ire.

Hip, as a notion, goes back to early jazz days. It is the idea that you have (at least in one etymology I've seen) hip waders on to forge through the flood of bullshit. In short, it is for outsiders who see the game is rigged and will not be drawn into it. People who work in the margins. Not entitled people.

It is not (historically at least) about Bright Young Things, Home Owners, Eurotrash or Trust Fund Kids.

It is a point of view distinctly derived from black culture as much as camp was once a POV for gay culture.


juliana - Jan 26, 2010 8:31:44 pm PST #4310 of 30001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

It is not (historically at least) about Bright Young Things, Home Owners, Eurotrash or Trust Fund Kids.

As with so many things, the meaning has been co-opted by the BYTs.


Trudy Booth - Jan 26, 2010 8:36:27 pm PST #4311 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

As with so many things, the meaning has been co-opted by the BYTs.

Much like Williamsburg its self.


shrift - Jan 26, 2010 8:47:30 pm PST #4312 of 30001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I'm going to conclude that hipsters are a largely mythical being existing only to be the subject of other people's ire.

I'd invite you to come with me to Wicker Park and see them in their natural habitat, but I haven't been over there in a while and they may have moved on to other Pabst Blue Ribbon watering holes.


javachik - Jan 26, 2010 9:10:15 pm PST #4313 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

"Hip" to me has a positive connotation, while "hipster" does not.


Trudy Booth - Jan 26, 2010 9:20:03 pm PST #4314 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Wikipedia has two Hipster pages. One is "1940s Subculture" one is "Contemporary Subculture".


DavidS - Jan 26, 2010 9:23:00 pm PST #4315 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

one is "Contemporary Subculture".

How is the contemporary version differentiated from sheer dickishness?


Trudy Booth - Jan 26, 2010 9:25:56 pm PST #4316 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

It's a special kind of dickishness.