Zoe: Is there any way I'm gonna get out of this with honor and dignity? Wash: You're pretty much down to ritual suicide, lambie-toes.

'War Stories'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Theodosia - May 13, 2010 9:55:37 am PDT #29225 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Sparky, could you have her address saved in your Contacts list? Either way it'd make me worried.


Sean K - May 13, 2010 9:59:53 am PDT #29226 of 30001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Sparky, if I understand how that data mining works, it may just be that your sister has her address on her Gmail profile somewhere, and the data miner pulled it from there.

We're really at the point where if there's any information you only want to share with selected people, stay off the internet.

And if there's any of that information you've put on the internet over the years, you're too late. You could go hunt all of it down and delete it where you can find and get to it, but even that wouldn't do you any good because it's already spread beyond where you can get to it.

As much as I dislike Facebook's privacy policy, they may be one of the few companies being realistic about it (though they need better PR about it).

You CAN'T protect your information online. You. Can't. The best approach is to stop worrying about it.


Sparky1 - May 13, 2010 10:02:42 am PDT #29227 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

your sister has her address on her Gmail profile

She doesn't use gmail, so it's not that. I have no addresses in my gmail contacts.

The best approach is to stop worrying about it.

It's not worry, it's my librarian brain wanting to know what the search algorithm is doing.


Sean K - May 13, 2010 10:05:48 am PDT #29228 of 30001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

it's my librarian brain wanting to know what the search algorithm is doing.

Liar.

It's you're evil overlord brain wanting to know how to twist this technology to your own nefarious ends.


Jessica - May 13, 2010 10:08:21 am PDT #29229 of 30001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

As much as I dislike Facebook's privacy policy, they may be one of the few companies being realistic about it (though they need better PR about it).

Oh, I disagree. It's one thing to say "your information is out there" and another to say "Since your information is out there anyway, we're just going to opt you in to CHANGING ALL OF YOUR PRIVACY SETTINGS TO COMPLETELY PUBLIC WITHOUT TELLING YOU FIRST, mkay?"

If they'd leave current users' settings alone every time they changed the defaults, that would be one thing. But it's completely unacceptable to take something I've explicity said should be private and make it public without asking first.

[There's also information on Facebook that's not publically available anywhere else, and that people might reasonably want to keep between themselves and a select group of friends. I might want "BDSM" in my list of Likes that I show to my explicitly approved Friends, but not publically searchable by, say, my boss. And the way Facebook operates, even if that level of privacy is an option today, there's no guarantee that they're not going to make it public by default without notification next week. NOT COOL.]


Sparky1 - May 13, 2010 10:09:49 am PDT #29230 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

It's you're evil overlord brain wanting to know how to twist this technology to your own nefarious ends.

Is that so wrong?


Amy - May 13, 2010 10:11:23 am PDT #29231 of 30001
Because books.

Is that so wrong?

Honestly, we expect no less of you.


bon bon - May 13, 2010 10:11:57 am PDT #29232 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

You CAN'T protect your information online. You. Can't. The best approach is to stop worrying about it.

The best approach? Really?


Sean K - May 13, 2010 10:17:38 am PDT #29233 of 30001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I agree with you on all that, Jess. I think Facebook is in a lot of trouble. They've taken completely the wrong approach and attitude to it all, and it may just sink them. Because of exactly what you describe above.

If they just said "None of your stuff is really private," and took a legitimate stand from that side, that would be one thing, but they're super slimy and mercenary about it instead. And as you so rightly point out, keep opting you back into everything every time they make a change. Plus the whole granularity of it all, where you have to individually disable every little thing, one at a time (and have to click thirty-seven buttons each time).


Sean K - May 13, 2010 10:20:38 am PDT #29234 of 30001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

The best approach? Really?

Got a better suggestion, bon? An advanced cyberwarfare team for every person who uses the internet is unfeasible.