Oh my god. What can it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing!? Oh right, that would be me. Back to work.

Wash ,'Bushwhacked'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sparky1 - May 13, 2010 10:02:42 am PDT #29227 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

your sister has her address on her Gmail profile

She doesn't use gmail, so it's not that. I have no addresses in my gmail contacts.

The best approach is to stop worrying about it.

It's not worry, it's my librarian brain wanting to know what the search algorithm is doing.


Sean K - May 13, 2010 10:05:48 am PDT #29228 of 30001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

it's my librarian brain wanting to know what the search algorithm is doing.

Liar.

It's you're evil overlord brain wanting to know how to twist this technology to your own nefarious ends.


Jessica - May 13, 2010 10:08:21 am PDT #29229 of 30001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

As much as I dislike Facebook's privacy policy, they may be one of the few companies being realistic about it (though they need better PR about it).

Oh, I disagree. It's one thing to say "your information is out there" and another to say "Since your information is out there anyway, we're just going to opt you in to CHANGING ALL OF YOUR PRIVACY SETTINGS TO COMPLETELY PUBLIC WITHOUT TELLING YOU FIRST, mkay?"

If they'd leave current users' settings alone every time they changed the defaults, that would be one thing. But it's completely unacceptable to take something I've explicity said should be private and make it public without asking first.

[There's also information on Facebook that's not publically available anywhere else, and that people might reasonably want to keep between themselves and a select group of friends. I might want "BDSM" in my list of Likes that I show to my explicitly approved Friends, but not publically searchable by, say, my boss. And the way Facebook operates, even if that level of privacy is an option today, there's no guarantee that they're not going to make it public by default without notification next week. NOT COOL.]


Sparky1 - May 13, 2010 10:09:49 am PDT #29230 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

It's you're evil overlord brain wanting to know how to twist this technology to your own nefarious ends.

Is that so wrong?


Amy - May 13, 2010 10:11:23 am PDT #29231 of 30001
Because books.

Is that so wrong?

Honestly, we expect no less of you.


bon bon - May 13, 2010 10:11:57 am PDT #29232 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

You CAN'T protect your information online. You. Can't. The best approach is to stop worrying about it.

The best approach? Really?


Sean K - May 13, 2010 10:17:38 am PDT #29233 of 30001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I agree with you on all that, Jess. I think Facebook is in a lot of trouble. They've taken completely the wrong approach and attitude to it all, and it may just sink them. Because of exactly what you describe above.

If they just said "None of your stuff is really private," and took a legitimate stand from that side, that would be one thing, but they're super slimy and mercenary about it instead. And as you so rightly point out, keep opting you back into everything every time they make a change. Plus the whole granularity of it all, where you have to individually disable every little thing, one at a time (and have to click thirty-seven buttons each time).


Sean K - May 13, 2010 10:20:38 am PDT #29234 of 30001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

The best approach? Really?

Got a better suggestion, bon? An advanced cyberwarfare team for every person who uses the internet is unfeasible.


Jessica - May 13, 2010 10:21:14 am PDT #29235 of 30001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Plus the whole granularity of it all, where you have to individually disable every little thing, one at a time (and have to click thirty-seven buttons each time).

And no "uncheck all" button so you can start from a completely locked-down profile and work your way out. I can't tell if it's deliberately confusing or if they just can't afford a usability consultant.


Steph L. - May 13, 2010 10:21:40 am PDT #29236 of 30001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

An advanced cyberwarfare team for every person who uses the internet is unfeasible.

Dood. Why you gotta be a hater?