No. You're missing the point. The design of the thing is functional. The plan is not to shoot you. The plan is to get the girl. If there's no girl, then the plan, well, is like the room.

Early ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Amy - Jan 19, 2010 11:59:34 am PST #2650 of 30001
Because books.

At what point does it tick over and get the title "bandom"?

Bandom seems mostly to be a certain type of pop-punk/post-punk. Before that, with NKOTB, etc., it was called popslash, but others could tell you more about that than I can.

I think the teen element of the audience for bandom bands is what drives it. I can't say for sure, but I don't think there are a lot of Kings of Leon or Metallica communities or fic out there, for example, although god knows I could be wrong.


Atropa - Jan 19, 2010 12:00:05 pm PST #2651 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I'm curious about the term "bandom". It's only some bands that fall under that rubric, right?

Yep. Mostly the bands on the Fueled By Ramen/Decaydance lables (that Pete Wentz is associated with), with MCR being included in bandom because ... they toured with FOB on Warped? I think that's the reason.

Does every ardent fan fall into bandom? Every ardent fan that's part of a community? At what point does it tick over and get the title "bandom"?

Y'know, I'm not sure when label "bandom" becomes applicable. For me, it was when I started reading fic. But I don't consider fic to be a necessary part of bandom.


smonster - Jan 19, 2010 12:04:46 pm PST #2652 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

It's only some bands that fall under that rubric, right?

As far as I am concerned, the main three bands in bandom are Fall Out Boy, Panic! and My Chemical Romance. All the other bands are connected in some way to one of those three bands. Many were/are on the Fueled By Ramen label (which is where FOB started). Some are spinoffs of bandom bands, such as Vein Envy. Others are "bandom-adjacent" for having toured with one of those three, such as Amanda Palmer when she was in Dresden Dolls, or Mindless Self-Indulgence (now doubly connected since the bassist, Lynn-Z, is married to Gerard Way of MCR). Confused yet?

Someone else will have to get the rest, I have to catch a bus. Is there a bandom wiki somewhere? Oh lordy, and now I'm thinking of that hilarious "intro to bandom" slide show that octette did on lj...


Daisy Jane - Jan 19, 2010 12:05:55 pm PST #2653 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I thought it was kind of annoying that the default of Outlook here is to set replies to blue, but it does mean that you can easily put your replies in the text of the question, thus ensuring you hit the questions actually asked. It's a boon. That's not always exploited.

I do this, though for some people I switch to red. People here are distressingly non-specific in email. It should not take 5 emails for me to understand that you want to know if legal has signed off on something. "Does this have approval?" is asking me if my boss and the CD have signed off.


Daisy Jane - Jan 19, 2010 12:09:23 pm PST #2654 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Also, in "I forget other people aren't us." news. I was coming up with classic screen couples, and a coworker mentioned Maverick and Charlie, and before I knew it, "I think you mean "Maverick and Ice Man" came flying out of my mouth.

Not really the same thing, but I also insisted on adding Ennis and Jack. I would like it if this list reflected more than hetero couples.


Trudy Booth - Jan 19, 2010 12:14:01 pm PST #2655 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

There was GCS fic *before* Fay started writing her (adorable! brilliant!) story.

Was there really? Oh dear lord.

Actually, when I first heard of RPF (and it was in regards to bands) my reaction was, "What if people started writing stories about Jilli?" That's pretty much been my standard ever since. If it would make me/Jilli uncomfortable were it about Jilli I skip it.

This pretty much amounts to "no sex" (which eliminates a LOT)with the noted exception of an extended tale where everyone turned into vampires and fucked. That one I read. Hell, Jilli might have recced it.

Mostly I've enjoyed "what if they'd never been a band and all worked at a ___________" stories. Oh, and prequels/sequels to videos.


Ailleann - Jan 19, 2010 12:16:03 pm PST #2656 of 30001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

with MCR being included in bandom because ... they toured with FOB on Warped? I think that's the reason.

And also because they are awesome.


Polter-Cow - Jan 19, 2010 12:18:16 pm PST #2657 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes:

U.S. military rules specifically prohibit the proselytizing of any religion in Iraq or Afghanistan and were drawn up in order to prevent criticism that the U.S. was embarked on a religious "Crusade" in its war against al Qaeda and Iraqi insurgents.

One of the citations on the gun sights, 2COR4:6, is an apparent reference to Second Corinthians 4:6 of the New Testament, which reads: "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ."

I'm not even sure Jesus would be cool with that.


Vortex - Jan 19, 2010 12:20:45 pm PST #2658 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

The use of "actionable" to me "able to be acted on" has become depressingly common. It makes me want to sue someone.

Which is ironic, because in a legal context "actionable" means able to be sued for.


Trudy Booth - Jan 19, 2010 12:22:45 pm PST #2659 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I don't know the cause/effect order, but have non bandom bands historically been as social networking happy?

It seems like a lot of the sense of personal connection comes out of that relationship. And, of course this might just be my perception, it seems like MCR, FOB, AFP, etc. were some of the early adopters of MySpace (and have eagerly adopted each new permutation). I'm pretty sure, actually, that the contracts of Decaydance bands specify that they'll be paying less of X because they will be (and are expected to be) doing so much free promotion/networking themselves.