Giles: Stop that, you two. Riley: He started it... Xander: He called me a bad name! I think it was bad; it might have been Latin.

'Selfless'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


javachik - Apr 28, 2010 2:31:11 pm PDT #26035 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Yeah, I guess I wouldn't lie, and I haven't (on a C.V.). But it's just a shitty thing, especially for women. As discussed here before, our salaries are often 25% lower than a man's doing the same work. And part of that is not negotiating hard enough and also getting caught in the "paid low in entry-level work and raises are based on the low wage" scenario.

(x-posted with MsBelle)

And I personally can't think of one good reason why anyone other than the IRS and anyone you're a debtor to has to know your salary history. My employer does not require it, and we don't ask about it when we're checking references.


javachik - Apr 28, 2010 2:36:56 pm PDT #26036 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Okay, Vortex, what about giving your current salary with full markup for all benefits? That would be verifiable, honest, but a more comprehensive listing of your full wages.


javachik - Apr 28, 2010 2:37:06 pm PDT #26037 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

hiccough


Sheryl - Apr 28, 2010 2:47:42 pm PDT #26038 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Watching hockey. Oh, Caps, you are so frustrating right now...


meara - Apr 28, 2010 2:48:20 pm PDT #26039 of 30001

I've left it blank before and if they ask said I'd discuss it when we get closer to an offer (in better wording than that). I know sometimes they want it to know you're not too expensive also. But still--you can put what you're looking for elsewhere if you want (though I know you're never supposed to be the first one to say a number).


javachik - Apr 28, 2010 2:57:34 pm PDT #26040 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Sheryl, GO SHARKS!!


Sophia Brooks - Apr 28, 2010 3:00:31 pm PDT #26041 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I pretty much have only transferred within the uni, and/or moved from retail to something else, so they always know what I make. Within the Uni, they are supposed to only ever offer you 10% even when changing positions (which I know is not true, but whatevs) and that is what I got with my last one. Which finally got me up to a living wage. Although I think it is ridiculous that Sec III's only make $18,000 a year- how can you live on that?

I am all stressed out because I never have any social obligations and on Friday I have both a farewell to our seniors (not that stressful) and my friend M's birthday party which is being held a her brother P's house. M always ends up arranging all the foodstuffs when we have parties and P's, and so I said I would do it because I think that sucks to have to do on your b-day, at your party, which is not at your house. What I didn't realize is that P actually needs a detailed shopping list (like, not just buy sandwich meat, but how much of each one, etc). AND I have no idea how I am getting from the senior farewell at a bowling alley with drinks which ends at 4 pm to his house and set up all the food by 5 pm, which is when this party starts, and I have no car! And neither one of us owns a salad bowl.

So tonight I have to come up with a detailed list of all shopping, and all platters, bowls, and utensils needed, email him, see what he has, figure out what I have and pack it to bring to work tomorrow for him to take home (he has Friday off from work).

I am also very nervous that since I am not going shopping and am asking him to buy things outside of his comfort zone (like hummus) because M likes them, that this will be disasterous.

And, I really can't drink at the farewell because a) I need to be alert for the prep, and b) Maria's husband is an alcoholic, and I don't want it to be weird, because though I doubt the rest of M's teetotalling family can tell if I am a little tipsy, I bet he can, and that could suck.

And, did I mention that I have no idea how I am getting anywhere, because the senior farewell people are all-- "Just meet us at the school, people will have cars, we will figure it out!"


JZ - Apr 28, 2010 3:02:15 pm PDT #26042 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

But it's just a shitty thing, especially for women. As discussed here before, our salaries are often 25% lower than a man's doing the same work. And part of that is not negotiating hard enough and also getting caught in the "paid low in entry-level work and raises are based on the low wage" scenario.

This is so exactly me it makes me want to cry. Or cockpunch someone.

Speaking of all of which (jobs and salaries, not cockpunching), I just submitted for a job in another department here that would be kind of a stretch and kind of a doddle, and in many ways a welcome change. PLEASE let them call me, please, please! This is the fourth or maybe fifth application in a little over a month, and all the others have been like pitching my resume down a black hole.

eta: ithin the Uni, they are supposed to only ever offer you 10% even when changing positions (which I know is not true, but whatevs) and that is what I got with my last one.

Gah. That worries me. I can't remember whether the rule is the same at my uni; it sounds unpleasantly familiar, and if it is then I'm well and truly hosed. No advances likely within my current position, and the next career track up would be more than 10%. Bah.


quester - Apr 28, 2010 3:02:41 pm PDT #26043 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Skipped like a skippy thing to say that I am settling in to watch David Tennant in Hamlet on PBS!


javachik - Apr 28, 2010 3:04:21 pm PDT #26044 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Oh, JZ. Vibing! Vibing HARD for you!

I just saw the funniest thing on Facebook. An "interview" an acquaintance took:

Question: If you won the lottery, how would you spend your millions?

Answer: smartely