You've got my support. Just think of me as...as your... You know, I'm searching for 'supportive things' and I'm coming up all bras.

Xander ,'Empty Places'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Amy - Apr 28, 2010 11:06:54 am PDT #25930 of 30001
Because books.

I have to admit it's upsetting to me to be having this conversation here in Natter.

I don't mind having it in Natter, but I do think there's a big difference between saying, "I think you're being purposely inflammatory and/or not listening" and "Go find a bridge," too.

Part of the point here is that what we say and how we say it matters.


Strix - Apr 28, 2010 11:08:20 am PDT #25931 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

True, Brenda, and I was guilty of making a generalization.


Atropa - Apr 28, 2010 11:11:51 am PDT #25932 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I don't mind having it in Natter, but I do think there's a big difference between saying, "I think you're being purposely inflammatory and/or not listening" and "Go find a bridge," too.

Part of the point here is that what we say and how we say it matters.

YES. And now I'm going to quote something from the b.org Etiquette page:

"Play nice, and you've found a home away from home. If you make personal attacks or offensive posts, or try to start a fight, you will be shunned".


erikaj - Apr 28, 2010 11:12:30 am PDT #25933 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

I'm not into content suppression...ftr. But there are people who enjoy starting shit in communities they don't really belong in. Maybe I leapt to judgment, though.


Burrell - Apr 28, 2010 11:16:47 am PDT #25934 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Why is it upsetting, Burrell? Real question, not snark.

Because I can't help but put myself in her place and I know that the feelings it causes me are hard: both deeply mortified and very angry. Now the truth is, I don't know Shari and so for all I know she's feeling neither of those emotions. But it's hard for me to turn off my reaction.

And really? Those feelings are for me to own. No one else here is responsible for making me feel this way. I know that. So I'll back off now lest I put my foot into it.


beth b - Apr 28, 2010 11:18:52 am PDT #25935 of 30001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

The reason I being on a board. I can chose not to engage


Strix - Apr 28, 2010 11:21:15 am PDT #25936 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Because I can't help but put myself in her place and I know that the feelings it causes me are hard: both deeply mortified and very angry. Now the truth is, I don't know Shari and so for all I know she's feeling neither of those emotions. But it's hard for me to turn off my reaction.

That is in tune with my feelings.

And erika (not ganging up on you; just realized something) -- what pinged me is that you started off by writing "we."

In essence, you spoke for me, and the right to reserve opinions for myself and speak for myself, is something I hold dear. I think that is why I am speaking up, when usually I stay well away from most dust-up's.

I hold no grudge, I just wanted to clarify.


Gudanov - Apr 28, 2010 11:24:23 am PDT #25937 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

But there are people who enjoy starting shit in communities they don't really belong in.

I think because Shari isn't a frequent poster it's easy to forget that she does post normal day to day stuff every so often. She's been a part of the community for years I think, just not one of the more visible ones.

Her initial post on immigration wasn't a real flamethrower either, it wasn't like she came out in support of the AZ law.


javachik - Apr 28, 2010 11:29:18 am PDT #25938 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Thanks for answering, Burrell. I had a feeling it's what you meant, but I wanted to be sure.


Daisy Jane - Apr 28, 2010 11:30:10 am PDT #25939 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

It wasn't really that post erika and I were reacting to. It was the last time she posted on something political, and I felt like, was pretty rude to a lot of us. It was a while back, but it left a mark on me at least.

Gah! Ok. I promise. No more.