I am uncomfortable labeling anyone a troll for bringing up unpopular sides to a convo.

You know that's not what it's for right? That it's because the last time I remember her in Natter it was also during a political discussion that nearly got nasty.

Again, I'm not in all threads all the time, so I'm willing to admit I may have it wrong, but I think saying it's for having an unpopular opinion is forgetting some history.

Now, I promise I'm done.

I like you fine, erika!

And I am a meanypants! GRR. See -- I can be mean.

I just love this board so much that I prefer to err on the side of caution and courtesy.

EDIT: And DJ, I am perfectly aware that there might be things that I am not aware of -- I am not omniscient. It was just -- erika, it felt very attacky, sorry, and that's what I am uncomfortable with.

(And having, I hope, clarified my thoughts, I going to try to step away from this conversation -- not the board-- before I eat my foot -- .

Peace.

I mean, "Namaste, motherfuckers!"

I'm certainly not too nice. But I think you are reading Shari's motives wrong here.

I am also uncomfortable with discussing someone when they are not present in a convo to speak for themselves.

I'd also add that around here how do you know who's here and who's not? If she's not popping up when there's a good chance of political turmoil as Erika suggests and is in fact lurking more than speaking, then who knows?

That said, I made a point of addressing my point to her rather than speaking about her. YMMV if that makes a difference.

I am uncomfortable labeling anyone a troll for bringing up unpopular sides to a convo. I am also uncomfortable with discussing someone when they are not present in a convo to speak for themselves.

Me too. Although I feel the need to point out that just because she's not posting right now doesn't mean she's not reading this right now. I have to admit it's upsetting to me to be having this conversation here in Natter.

I don't talk a lot about my view on immigration because I am on another end of the spectrum. I think we should make it as easy as possible to come into the country. If no one has to come into unlawfully , than things like undocumented people in the ER won't have to exist. Because they will be documented. And most likely paying into the system.

Simplistic, but this:

I think most parents would do anything for their children or their own parents and so on. I just can't find it in myself to criticize people who are willing to do what it takes to provide for their families.

Rings true. I know I'd go pretty far for my family, and I don't even have kids. And it is for most of the people I know.

and if i hear one person take a strong stand on undocumented immigration, and then hire the day labors around here... I might explode.

Why is it upsetting, Burrell? Real question, not snark.

I have to admit it's upsetting to me to be having this conversation here in Natter.

I don't mind having it in Natter, but I do think there's a big difference between saying, "I think you're being purposely inflammatory and/or not listening" and "Go find a bridge," too.

Part of the point here is that what we say and how we say it matters.

True, Brenda, and I was guilty of making a generalization.

I don't mind having it in Natter, but I do think there's a big difference between saying, "I think you're being purposely inflammatory and/or not listening" and "Go find a bridge," too.

Part of the point here is that what we say and how we say it matters.

YES. And now I'm going to quote something from the b.org Etiquette page:

"Play nice, and you've found a home away from home. If you make personal attacks or offensive posts, or try to start a fight, you will be shunned".