Angel: Yeah, I never told anyone about this, but I-I liked your poems. Spike: You like Barry Manilow.

'Hell Bound'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Hil R. - Mar 15, 2010 7:29:24 pm PDT #16433 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

A girl in the town where I grew up, a few years older than me, died in an accident when she fell asleep at the wheel. When my sister and I were teenagers, one of my mother's many rules for letting us borrow the car was that, if we were going somewhere late at night, the person in the passenger seat had to stay awake and make sure the driver stayed awake.


megan walker - Mar 15, 2010 7:29:35 pm PDT #16434 of 30001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Also, it was stated multiple times in our trial that the question is not whether someone is driving drunk, but whether they are under the influence, and those are totally different standards. That is partly why the BAC > .08 charge was totally separate.


Trudy Booth - Mar 15, 2010 7:31:13 pm PDT #16435 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I think we're all losing track of the Megan's important realization here:

Mostly what I learned from this case was, if you flee the scene, stay fled.


Hil R. - Mar 15, 2010 7:34:01 pm PDT #16436 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

The "don't get in a car with a drunk driver" stuff in school started around first or second grade. There were a few times when my family went out to dinner while my sister and I were in elementary school and my dad had a beer with dinner and my sister and I absolutely refused to get into the car with him driving afterwards. My parents usually decided to just shrug and have my mom drive, rather than try to explain the difference between "had a drink" and "drunk" to elementary school kids.


Cass - Mar 15, 2010 7:34:10 pm PDT #16437 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I've gotten to where I will pull off at a rest area, lock the doors, and nap for about 20-30 minutes.

Even exhausted I have a hard time napping on demand. But I'll just wait for some sleep or some actual alertness before I get back on the road.

Except recently driving home from Seattle. I got suddenly tired so I pulled off. I parked on the very edge of the rest stop, put a podcast on instead of my audiobook, tipped back my seat and turned the car off. Realized when I woke up twenty minutes later that turning my car off? Unlocks my door. Kids, this is why tired = stupid. But I felt way better for the rest of my drive home and thankfully was not murderized at a rest stop.


Cass - Mar 15, 2010 7:35:26 pm PDT #16438 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Megan's important realization

This is a key finding. If you flee, stay fled.


megan walker - Mar 15, 2010 7:36:51 pm PDT #16439 of 30001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Other things I learned:
--plaid is not red, but it doesn't matter anyway
--don't mess with a neighborhood construction guy who views a park as his own personal world
--put another person's name on your keychain, preferably another race/ethnicity than your own
--when an officer asks if you've have anything to drink that morning, don't say "a few beers"


ChiKat - Mar 15, 2010 7:37:09 pm PDT #16440 of 30001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Cass, we're glad you weren't murderized, too. Good grief, woman.

Flee, stay fled. Check.

Y'all I have to be up in 6 hours. Sleep is being an illusive bitch tonight.


Hil R. - Mar 15, 2010 7:37:30 pm PDT #16441 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

If you flee, stay fled.

Unless you're on an episode of Law and Order, because then you'll get arrested again by the same cop 20 years later and they'll find some way to charge you with a hundred different crimes.


meara - Mar 15, 2010 7:39:23 pm PDT #16442 of 30001

Unless you're on an episode of Law and Order, because then you'll get arrested again by the same cop 20 years later and they'll find some way to charge you with a hundred different crimes.

Exactly. Or you'll flee to another country, and there will be crazy extradition plans, and they'll find out something even WORSE about you, etc, etc.