I admittedly only skimmed that "strong women" article but boy did she miss the point. If you think the solution to the problem of how women are presented on tv is just to create them with one flaw, you've missed all feminist criticism.
Hey, if it means I don't have to read any more, woo and, might I add, a big hoo.
Xander ,'Sleeper'
Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
bon bon - Mar 02, 2010 1:34:09 pm PST #12686 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
§ ita § - Mar 02, 2010 1:35:37 pm PST #12687 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
A much shorter article is "create well-rounded female characters, huh?" I disagree with most all of the specific suggestions as trivial and unhelpful. Some of the characters she mentions are well-rounded, some are horrific.
javachik - Mar 02, 2010 1:38:58 pm PST #12688 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.
Wow, Dana, you had more than one instance of one person/many characters on the board? I thought Gus was the only one.
I mean, apart from me/megan and juliana/Smonster.
Sheryl - Mar 02, 2010 1:39:51 pm PST #12689 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"
Timelies all!
Must go make dinner...
Jessica - Mar 02, 2010 1:39:56 pm PST #12690 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Once your female characters have some depth to them, it doesn’t really matter if the male hero saves them or not. For instance, Batman saved Rachel Dawes a couple of times, but I never saw her as only a Damsel in Distress
I agree with the first sentence. But to use Rachel Dawes as an example of a movie character with depth...makes my brain hurt.
Dana - Mar 02, 2010 1:43:51 pm PST #12691 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."
Wow, Dana, you had more than one instance of one person/many characters on the board? I thought Gus was the only one.
Gus was actually only one "person" on the board. I mean, unless you count the girlfriend who showed up to announce his pseudicide.
mieskie posted in the Firefly thread, got himself suspended and then banned for two months, and came back under another name.
I mean, apart from me/megan and juliana/Smonster.
And me and shrift.
Allyson - Mar 02, 2010 1:44:35 pm PST #12692 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
What was mieskie's problem? Was he just super-annoying?
Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 02, 2010 1:45:39 pm PST #12693 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I seem to recall insulting, condescending, and confrontational in the mix too.
javachik - Mar 02, 2010 1:45:55 pm PST #12694 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.
I mean, unless you count the girlfriend who showed up to announce his pseudicide
Yeah, I was counting this.
Oh yeah, Dana/shrift. Which means I met you on the Embarcadero last year. Cool!
Dana - Mar 02, 2010 1:50:17 pm PST #12695 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."
I seem to recall insulting, condescending, and confrontational in the mix too.
And obscene. And a jackass. And very talkative.