Does anybody mind if I pass out?

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Aims - Jan 06, 2010 8:37:49 am PST #5868 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I would say yes and no. A lot of riveters from WWII were happy to go back to the home and have their jobs retaken by men.


tommyrot - Jan 06, 2010 8:40:46 am PST #5869 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

At the end of WWII, the government tried to persuade working women to quit their jobs. Dunno what effect that had on this:

A lot of riveters from WWII were happy to go back to the home and have their jobs retaken by men.


Aims - Jan 06, 2010 8:46:30 am PST #5870 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I have no citation for my statement, other than accounts I've either read or heard.

My lit crit professor made a point that I hadn't ever thought of in that women's rights or women's roles haven't changed in a gradual upward motion, it's actually been an upward moving wavy line. Early 1900's: very restrictive, 1920's: a little more open, 1950's: restrictive again, but not as restrictive as before, etc etc etc


Connie Neil - Jan 06, 2010 8:47:36 am PST #5871 of 30000
brillig

A lot of riveters from WWII were happy to go back to the home and have their jobs retaken by men.

True, there was a good deal of "this isn't our proper sphere, but we're doing it for the good of the country and to free up Our Boys."

edit: Is the wavy line an indicator of something I heard described as kids following their grandparents' example and horrifying their parents?


Aims - Jan 06, 2010 8:49:02 am PST #5872 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Connie - yes.


erikaj - Jan 06, 2010 8:49:32 am PST #5873 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

I've read things that say "Sometimes," Connie, but I'm not sure how true to that actual time-frame that was. Which is important to think about, because it was trippy watching, say, "The Best Years Of Our Lives" and realizing, that hey, they didn't know how that late forties period was going to turn out in that movie,Which kind of sounds stupid as I type it, but there is just a fable about that era being calm, settled, filled with educated people and commonly-understood expectations, and it wasn't really that way for the people who were there.(At least, not always...that's a brilliant film. Anyone who hasn't seen it ought to.)


WindSparrow - Jan 06, 2010 8:52:52 am PST #5874 of 30000
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Aaaaannnnnnd here comes the vicodin.

My hands feel like they are several miles from my head. And yet I can still spell. I think. I take that back, whole lotta backspacing going on.

I better get upstairs for a nap while I can still find my feet.


Laura - Jan 06, 2010 9:16:51 am PST #5875 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

pssst, WindSparrow's stoned, pass it on


DavidS - Jan 06, 2010 9:20:51 am PST #5876 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

pssst, Windsparrow's cloned, pass it on


Steph L. - Jan 06, 2010 9:22:06 am PST #5877 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

pssst, WindSparrow is a clown, pass it on