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Connie Neil - Jan 06, 2010 8:47:36 am PST #5871 of 30000
brillig

A lot of riveters from WWII were happy to go back to the home and have their jobs retaken by men.

True, there was a good deal of "this isn't our proper sphere, but we're doing it for the good of the country and to free up Our Boys."

edit: Is the wavy line an indicator of something I heard described as kids following their grandparents' example and horrifying their parents?


Aims - Jan 06, 2010 8:49:02 am PST #5872 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Connie - yes.


erikaj - Jan 06, 2010 8:49:32 am PST #5873 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

I've read things that say "Sometimes," Connie, but I'm not sure how true to that actual time-frame that was. Which is important to think about, because it was trippy watching, say, "The Best Years Of Our Lives" and realizing, that hey, they didn't know how that late forties period was going to turn out in that movie,Which kind of sounds stupid as I type it, but there is just a fable about that era being calm, settled, filled with educated people and commonly-understood expectations, and it wasn't really that way for the people who were there.(At least, not always...that's a brilliant film. Anyone who hasn't seen it ought to.)


WindSparrow - Jan 06, 2010 8:52:52 am PST #5874 of 30000
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Aaaaannnnnnd here comes the vicodin.

My hands feel like they are several miles from my head. And yet I can still spell. I think. I take that back, whole lotta backspacing going on.

I better get upstairs for a nap while I can still find my feet.


Laura - Jan 06, 2010 9:16:51 am PST #5875 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

pssst, WindSparrow's stoned, pass it on


DavidS - Jan 06, 2010 9:20:51 am PST #5876 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

pssst, Windsparrow's cloned, pass it on


Steph L. - Jan 06, 2010 9:22:06 am PST #5877 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

pssst, WindSparrow is a clown, pass it on


Laura - Jan 06, 2010 9:24:13 am PST #5878 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I'm from a bit of a different generation. My mother worked during the war, but of course quit her job and went about raising children when the boys came home. After the 4 of us were finished school she casually commented to my dad that she thought she would get a job. She had been in a zillion volunteer positions over the years. Dad was horrified. All his friends would think he wasn't able to provide for her, etc. She had no idea dad felt this way because she never considered working until her children were grown.

His 3 daughters were a different matter. Dad expected we would all go to college and have careers. But not his wife. She could go to college and get degrees and be in any non-paying position she desired. Total different standard for her.


WindSparrow - Jan 06, 2010 9:25:44 am PST #5879 of 30000
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

pssst, WindSparrow's gone to town, pass it on

Huh. Apparently I'm not napping. I'm snuggling Harvey and paying attentiong to the bits of my face which are easing out of the novacaine. My chin, for instance feels very odd. From inside, it feels like pins and needles, but when I touch it with my fingers I feel nothing. Which then m akes me wonder if my fingers are numb.


Fred Pete - Jan 06, 2010 9:51:02 am PST #5880 of 30000
Ann, that's a ferret.

I've read things that say "Sometimes," Connie, but I'm not sure how true to that actual time-frame that was.

My guess, and I don't have anything to hand to back it up (though, just on general principles, I recommend Stephanie Koontz's The Way We Never Were) -- there were so many Rosie the Riveters that you could probably find plenty of examples of whatever attitude you wanted to find.

And while I don't have any evidence of this either, I suspect there may be something of that dynamic in today's generation gap. I imagine that, if you went to a typical college campus, say, you could find a number of women working for political causes (including, but not limited to, feminism), a number of women interested mainly in the next sorority party (or, to borrow Tep's phrase, a "$100 leg wax"), and a number in between or maybe even on another axis altogether.