I am not...I am not the damsel in distress. I am not some case. I have to work this. I've lived in a cave for 5 years in a world where they killed my kind like cattle. I am not going to be cut down by some monster flu. I am better than that. What a wonder...how very scared I am.

Fred ,'A Hole in the World'


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omnis_audis - Aug 24, 2010 2:17:34 pm PDT #29890 of 30000
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

the season finale of Top Shot
I like that show. About the only reality show I watch of late. I was hoping the kid would have won. Actually, first was the kid, then the gal, then JJ. The dude who won annoyed me early on. I tried to get my BIL to try out for Top Shot 2 (retired Marine sniper). Alas, it looks like he is real close to finally getting a job (it's been almost 3 years!) and will involve time over seas, and not available to do the show. :: sigh ::


beekaytee - Aug 24, 2010 3:07:29 pm PDT #29891 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

bonny a la Godzilla tromping about her town and dropping a world of hurt on her USPS.

This has actually happened...on more than one occasion.

Top Shot
Yeah, I severely limit my reality show exposure, preferring to leave the drama to other people's mamas. TS is enjoyable because it is totally skill based. You make the shot, or you don't.

I was actually worried that JJ would win. That would have been a bit too 'dream team' for my liking. It was interesting to see what tripped him up, and gratifying to hear him taking responsibility for it...unlike that Blake guy who was so annoying with blaming knives for not being guns and blaming guns for not being like other guns. Grow up Mister!

I can see why Iain would bug, but talent will out. He was the most consistently successful. I honestly think the woman would have given him a run for it, if she had been able to stay.


omnis_audis - Aug 24, 2010 3:26:19 pm PDT #29892 of 30000
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

unlike that Blake guy who was so annoying with blaming knives for not being guns and blaming guns for not being like other guns. Grow up Mister!
Yes! I can't believe how long he lasted. And Denny! Nice guy, but his specialty gun, kept messing up on. I can't believe how many times he didn't get nominated for elimination. Brad annoyed me a bit too.

I'd be curious just how far Tara would have gone. I think the challenge that wiped out Kelly and Adam might have eliminated her. Not sure. I hope, if she wants, they would let her into Top Shot 2.


Jessica - Aug 24, 2010 3:33:07 pm PDT #29893 of 30000
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I wonder if a woman who describes childbirth as beautiful while she's holding her child would necessarily have described it as beautiful while she was screaming and hurting and bleeding and shitting and people were staring at her vajayjay.

FWIW, my experience of childbirth involved no shitting, screaming or bleeding (until it turned into an emergency C, which involved the usual amount of blood for abdominal surgery). I'm not gonna say labor isn't painful, but I feel like the way it's been described in this thread makes it sound like something out of a Saw movie.


P.M. Marc - Aug 24, 2010 3:37:44 pm PDT #29894 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I may have growled. And there was a small amount of puking up a Snickers bar I'd foolishly eaten right before transition. But no screaming or shitting, and just the usual amount of blood.

Labor and delivery just wasn't that bad, all told.


billytea - Aug 24, 2010 3:40:42 pm PDT #29895 of 30000
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

FWIW, my experience of childbirth involved no shitting, screaming or bleeding (until it turned into an emergency C, which involved the usual amount of blood for abdominal surgery).

This was Wallybee's experience too, more or less (I can't say it was completely devoid of poo, but that was Ryan's contribution to the process, not the 'Bee's). One thing that kind of surprised me, and it was my sister's comment too, is how dull it was for much of the time.


Amy - Aug 24, 2010 3:43:43 pm PDT #29896 of 30000
Because books.

I always thought screaming during childbirth would be counterproductive. I didn't want a headache on top of it.

I have three kids and each L&D was very different. None of them are anything I would have wanted to filmed to show every Christmas, for reasons that don't really have anything to do with more than modesty, but they certainly weren't horror shows.

And with something like childbirth, there's so much emotional content attached, it's hard to separate that from a really objective "Wow, this hurts" perspective. Bringing a whole new human being into the world doesn't seem like something you should be able to do without a bit of sweat, honestly.


Steph L. - Aug 24, 2010 3:52:52 pm PDT #29897 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I feel like the way it's been described in this thread makes it sound like something out of a Saw movie.

I am NOT laughing at anyone's childbirth experience, but this description made me cackle loudly enough to make the sleeping dalmatian wake up, give me the stinkeye, and then go back to sleep.

ION, within the past 2 hours or so, all of my joints have started aching. That's just weird. Is there a pill for that? Or a recommended alcoholic beverage?

Maybe just the microwave not!rice-filled sock and bed.


Steph L. - Aug 24, 2010 3:54:34 pm PDT #29898 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Oh, I should add that all I know about childbirth I learned from TV and movies, so I assume delivery is 90 seconds of scream, scream, push, and ta-da! Strawberry yogurt-covered 3-month-old baby!

...it's not really like that, is it? Because I don't think any woman should be manufacturing yogurt of any flavor.


Aims - Aug 24, 2010 4:00:24 pm PDT #29899 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

For the most part, Em's birth was pretty awesome. Contractions were something to CONQUERED AND PUT IN THEIR PLACE! I was so focused that I think I only swore once.I was surrounded by a fantastic medical and nursing staff and loving husband and best friends.

Now.

Everything that I had written down as the WORST THINGS TO HAPPEN! happened. I had to have pitocin (thankfully AFTER the epidural), I did poop while pushing (my total fault for getting Baja Fresh while I was totally laboring at home- idiot), I ended up having to have a C-Section (Em's fault for not dropping EVER and going into my pelvis with her ear to her shoulder.).

OTOH, I slept all the way through active labor and transition and woke up to Tom Ridge resigning on CNN. So that was awesome. The women in my family have that effect on governmental figuers - I was born the day Nixon resigned.

Anywhoodle - all of that is to say that while there were lots of very ... I don't know, I guess lots of people who see them as "degrading" ... things happened, to me they were a part of the process and in the end, having my daughter was well worth the embarassment of crapping myself.

Now, would I begrudge any woman reading this and saying, "Hell to the FUCK NO!" on having kids? Nope. But I don't know that this offers a different perspective, so much as a telling of events.

Where does that line of "different perspective" vs. "Personal experience" get drawn? They seem different to me somehow, the latter seeming more official? maybe?