(Not to reopen the subject if folks don't want to, but I missed it, darn it.) I wonder if a woman who describes childbirth as beautiful while she's holding her child would necessarily have described it as beautiful while she was screaming and hurting and bleeding and shitting and people were staring at her vajayjay. Our own subjective definition of our own experience can change. Her "lived experience" as a memory may be different than her "lived experience" while she was actually living it.
This is in fact what my own mother told me: that childbirth was horrible and she totally understood why I wouldn't want to go through it, but that once it was over and she had her baby in her arms, the pain didn't matter; she only "remembered" the joy of bringing this life into the world. The experience was beautiful to her, but only in retrospect.
Listening to people like Aims describe their experience of childbirth has broadened my views on it; I never imagined it could make someone feel powerful, for instance. My views on childbirth are strongly influenced by my upbringing and my issues, and it's taken me a lifetime (so far) to even begin to understand why in heck anyone would WANT to do that, and to understand giving birth as something a woman would freely choose to do, as opposed to being coerced into doing by the expectations of her society and/or her family. I've always seen pregnancy/childbirth as something that takes women's choices away from them.
Changing subject: I think that to get anywhere near "truth", it requires both the subjective experience and the objective description, as well as a hunt for underlying reasons/causes, ideally undertaken by both parties. Neither the subjective nor the objective, or the personal and the public/societal, is ever the whole thing, because humans can't be entirely separated from their social/cultural environment, and personal experience is always shaped by expectations, which are usually shaped by outside forces (society, family, peers, etc.). That's not to say that we're puppets, either, just that we need both the "inside" and the "outside" of personal experience/belief to really understand what's happening and why.
Caveat: I am an anthropologist. Also, I pretty much think we humans are crazy, so there's a bias.
And a competent scientist would have to agree that because an event COULD be caused by chemistry doesn't mean it WAS caused by chemistry.
(And surely any competent spectral dead grandmother could certainly make use of the available biological processes to tell you everything is going to be ok.)
There are parts of the brain that when stimulated, say, by mild electrical current, produce subjective experiences of spectral beings hanging about or of being in the presence of God. There are also portions of the brain that when stimulated produce the subjective experience of butterflies going by. But no one says that because we can be made to hallucinate a butterfly, all our experiences of butterflies must be hallucinatory and butterflies must not exist.
Or to ask if you were wearing clean underwear.
You'd think a spectral grandmother would know that...
there are so many nick names to the genitalia, but not one to the uterus
You Cramping Bitch is what I affectionately call mine.
Being pregnant is euphemistcally called "having a bun in the
oven
."
Since it's one hour from tomorrow, I'll post my manifesto (on my) tomorrow morning.
Olivia asked me what was inside her vagina last week. And Owen pointed out that a movie was rated PG-13 for violence and some sexual content.
I'm totally fucked.
But I showed Liv an general science anatomy transparency page with the internal organs represented. She seemed to get a kick out of the fact that girls have a uterus but boys don't. I didn't disabuse her of that notion. She'll figure it out soon enough.
Owen just thinks sex is "kissing and stuff."
Catching up.
I have very few opinions on childbirth, except that some women, apart from those under duress, appear to not hate it enough to do it again.
Owen just thinks sex is "kissing and stuff."
Owen is right, for suitably broad definitions of "stuff."
I really felt sort of alone while in childbirth. DH was there, my sister was there but it was just me and the contractions sort of working it out.
I felt like they were supportive bystanders but nobody else could really experience it with me.'
I didn't hate it.
So, the saga of my car has come to a near end.
A month ago I went through four alternators in the span of a week or so, in the middle of that, the engine ran horrible and I had to get new plugs, wires, and one set of a coil pack,plus a new battery and fusable link. Oh, and Andi splurged and got my A/C recharged. Total Cost: @ $400
Then they found that I need a new CV transaxle, as the CV boot was ripped. Haven't fixed that yet. Est: $500
The exhaust needs replacing. Est: $600
Then the driver's side electric window died after being replaced about a year ago. Est: $100
Last night? Smelled antifreeze, engine started getting hot, Pulled over, coolant leak. Had it looked at. Heater core in the firewall. Est: $1,100
Plus? they found evidence of a possible head gasket leak. Est: $800 and up.
I paid $1000 for the car. No way am I going to plow that much into something with passenger side damage and a salvage title.
Sigh.
Yikes, that's a lot of fixin in a car. Good luck!
I have nothing to add to the socialogical/anthropological/birth discussion. I will just say "I know nothin' about birthin' babies".
I have two elbow bandages. Yes, I gave blood. The first poke on the right arm missed. So the dude said "eh, rather than prod around in there, let's just give the other arm a shot". Um. OK! I'm all for not prodding around. So I switched chairs to a left arm chair, and the guy manning that station got me with no effort at all. Woot! So I gave (almost a full) pint of blood. Apparently started out going like gang busters, and then slowed down. The guy said "we are well past the minimum, since it's slowed down, let's call it a day for you". Um. Ok.
Pulse rate was exactly middle of "normal range" 80bpm. Blood pressure was right in that average/normal range 120/68. Hemoglobin just made it into normal range 13.7. So, does this count as a physical? (I hate going to doctors).
Since they poked me twice, they have me a coupon for a free pint of ice cream. And the give away was for free angels tickets. My summer TA (who is volunteering her time) has her mom visiting from out of town this week. So I'm giving her the ticket vouchers. I got invited to a game for Friday's game (which means free fireworks!), so I'm good. She's been a great help this summer. Seems the least I can do.
