Definite fail points for use of the word "enslaves," though. That was unnecessary.

Yeah, that part was bothering me much more than the "myth and superstition" one. Religion is myth and superstition? I dunno, maybe. Some parts are. Nothing wrong with myth, anyway. It hardens hearts and enslaves minds? There's where I've got a problem.

Yeah, I'm OK thanks, sj and Andi. Just pissed off at Camden (and a bit shaky). Being the borough that also gave me TWO parking tickets today (once for forgetting to display my disabled parking permit, and once for setting the attached clock wrongly, both because I've been all shaky today from being attacked by their pavements - or maybe I'm just plain evil). It's been a bash-my-head-repeatedly-against-side-of-car day today. Oh and Camden just found me on twitter and told me to report the "damaged" pavement. I replied that reporting that one badly-designed pavement wasn't going to help with the hundreds of others throughout the borough. At least I got that off my chest!

Have we discussed the atheist ad campaign here?

Heh. That's fun. Is it related to this campaign, over here? [link] That's been so much fun to see on buses.

My mom is actually among those who is pro-Merry Christmas, which I find odd since she's married to a JEW and has celebrated Chanukkah for the past 40 years. ::shrugs::

Like I was trying to say, some of us do both. Am I hypocrite because I'm going to be celebrating Hanukkah with The Girl next week, and she'll be celebrating Christmas with me and my family in a couple of weeks' time? I hope not. Some of us don't want to impose our faiths on other people. We just want to share the fun with our partners. And we'll be sharing stories and dreidles with a lot of non-Jews next week, including several people from my LGBT Christian group. We have masses of friends, Jewish, Christian and even my Buddhist father, coming to light candles with us. I think it's utterly fantastic.

I know people here are only sounding off about having religion imposed upon them, but some Christians don't do that, and I get tired of hearing that we all do. I wouldn't be marrying a (female) Jewish atheist if I was either a fundamentalist or out to impose my faith on other people. I don't think it's any bad thing for people to want to share their customs with each other (as long as it's in a non-imposing, non-judgemental way).

Is it related to this campaign, over here?

I think the campaigns are more or less independent, but the organizations behind them are friendly with one another.

Not really related, but I haven't seen this or this discussed here and I figured a little schadenfreude would brighten the morning.

Some people get exposed to the message "you are an inferior person because you don't believe" a lot. That can make one resentful.

My parents say I think I'm a superior person because I don't believe. I'm still resentful!

They were pleased when a friend who dropped me off from college said, "Happy holidays!" to them rather than "Merry Christmas," though.

Seska, I hope you don't think I was directing any kind of frustration at you. We've always celebrated both sets of holidays in my house and actually it's a bit of a tradition to invite non-Jews to Passover Seder. I am just bemused by my mother.

In fact, my Christian but anti-organized religion BF is going to be joining us for Chanukkah this weekend.

Thanks for the links, Toddson.

Taitz Fined $20,000

I want to claim emotional damages simply from hearing her voice.

They were pleased when a friend who dropped me off from college said, "Happy holidays!" to them rather than "Merry Christmas," though.

I think it's different when it's coming from someone who knows you. I don't care what a store clerk says to me, but I will get a bit "Buh?" if a friend who has never acknowledged any Jewish holidays wishes me a Merry Christmas.

In elementary school, they had us sing, "We wish you a merry Christmas, we wish you a jolly winter, we wish you a happy Chanukah, and a happy new year." Even in first grade, we all thought that was dumb. It's a Christmas song, just let it be a Christmas song. Other religions can go in other songs, or in no songs, or in whatever songs the members of those religions want to be in.

I know people here are only sounding off about having religion imposed upon them, but some Christians don't do that, and I get tired of hearing that we all do.

I didn't mean to generalize. I don't think that all Christians believe that non-believers are bad people.

Besides those impersonal greetings are all about tone anyways, as the "edgy" college kids who slip by "Welcome to Taco Bell...may I fuck your mother today?" find out. Phonebanking gets like that, too. No matter how awesome your candidate/ issue is by the end of the day, it's totally "Would you like fries with that?" (No, I never ask to fuck their mothers...around here, that would just confirm too much anti-Dem prejudice.)