Jayne: We was just about to spring into action, Captain. Complicated escape and rescue op. Wash: I was going to watch. It was very exciting.

'Shindig'


Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


smonster - Jul 15, 2010 10:41:14 am PDT #25576 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Blaming everything on the patricarchy make you The Tool of the -----archy.

My stance on it is this: there is nothing wrong with porn, per se. Watch it together, alone, whatever. The porn industry is generally problematic in, yes, ways that have to do with the patriarchy/kyriarchy. Objectification of and violence against women, strict adherance to a monolithic beauty standard (even girl-on-girl action being clearly aimed towards a straight white male audience*), etc. And then there's child porn and "barely legal" porn.

I think what I'm saying is that I wouldn't have a problem with my partner watching porn, but there might be certain kinds that I prefer s/he not watch, or at least I might opt out of watching them with her/him.

Timesuck is a whole 'nother thing, as several have pointed out. I can certain see the insecurity that the timesuck being porn might trigger - I think it's understandable even if not justified.

* At least back when I was perusing the VHS shelves at my local video store. I do not know what wonders the internet hath wroth, but I suspect it is proportionally similar.


Steph L. - Jul 15, 2010 10:42:22 am PDT #25577 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

women who find it demeaning to women/antithetical to feminism. Granted, some of it is horrible, but some of it is even made by women. But expressing any appreciation for porn make some people go off on "You're a tool of the patriarchy!" rants.

Same thing with people who think that BDSM (and, more specifically, submission) is anti-feminist. Really? A woman owning her sexuality and choosing how to express it is ANTI-feminist?

The argument being, of course, than no woman can make such a choice because the patriarchy has already warped our ideas of sexuality.

(That's a conundrum, though, because wouldn't the SAME patriarchy have warped the worldview of those who decry BDSM? I mean, let's all start from the same spot, okay? If I'm a tool of the patriarchy, so are they.)


Connie Neil - Jul 15, 2010 10:42:33 am PDT #25578 of 30000
brillig

kyriarchy?


tommyrot - Jul 15, 2010 10:43:48 am PDT #25579 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

The argument being, of course, than no woman can make such a choice because the patriarchy has already warped our ideas of sexuality.

Yeah, I've read that as an argument for the assertion that a woman can't be a feminist unless she's a lesbian.


Strix - Jul 15, 2010 10:44:03 am PDT #25580 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

oh, for the flippin' love of fuck's sweet sister;

2nd mortgage place told us house has NOT been auctioned off.

And we STILL haven't been able to get anyone by phone since we got the letter Friday.

Look. You. I understand there is a backlog. This is why we've been getting our willy diddled for the last 9 months. But someone needs to call us back or pick up the fucking phone. Because if I have to call, it will be because I have gotten into a fight about it with my sweet husband and I Will Not Be Amused. At all.

Sincerely,

I Just Want To Talk To Someone Who Knows What The Fuck Is Up.

Now.


Steph L. - Jul 15, 2010 10:44:50 am PDT #25581 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Yeah, I've read that as an argument for the assertion that a woman can't be a feminist unless she's a lesbian.

See, as soon as a person tells me what I *have to* be, then I'ma call foul and say that THAT person isn't exactly my idea of a feminist.


amych - Jul 15, 2010 10:44:54 am PDT #25582 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Kyriarchy: [link]


Atropa - Jul 15, 2010 10:45:04 am PDT #25583 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Apparantly, my Pandora is set to "Jilli" - I just got Siouxsie followed by Bowie.

I win!

What I win, I don't know. But I win!


Aims - Jul 15, 2010 10:46:32 am PDT #25584 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

And now it went to The Cure. Jilli totally wins!!


tommyrot - Jul 15, 2010 10:46:35 am PDT #25585 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

What I win, I don't know. But I win!

Fudge!

Or if you don't like fudge, then cupcakes.