How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious.

Wash ,'Objects In Space'


Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


sj - Jul 14, 2010 9:10:35 am PDT #25392 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Thanks, Hec. Normally I line the floor with pillows, but I didn't this time.


Typo Boy - Jul 14, 2010 9:20:30 am PDT #25393 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Go Hil.

And P-C I guarantee traveling with your parents and your Mother in particular will be traumatic. It is a chance to emotionally abuse you without your being able to hang up! No.

If this is a wedding you don't want to miss, you make enough money to buy your own plane ticket, rent a hotel room. Make an arrangement that it is practical for you to walk away if the abuse starts. Alternatively if this wedding is not that important to you skip it. You have just barely broken away from a cycle of abuse, and traveling with one of your abusers is not going to be a vacation for you. I know you don't like to think of your Mom that way. You love her and she loves you. But what she did to you and still tries to do to you is emotional abuse. And she is 100% convinced that she right and you are wrong, which means that there is no way she won't take advantage of any opening you give her. Firstly, since she thinks she is right she won't want to avoid taking advantage of it. And secondly she is not at a stage in dealing with you where she could skip the abuse if she tried.

Being constantly tormented, even surrounded by many people you love and in a region you love is not a vacation. And it is not like anyone will support you to your Mother's face. And plenty will support her to your face.

I'm one of those guys for whom tact is something you use to nail down carpets. Was this too tactless a way to put it?


Polter-Cow - Jul 14, 2010 9:28:17 am PDT #25394 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I may have to come up with an Important Work Project That I Just Cannot Get Out Of.


WindSparrow - Jul 14, 2010 9:28:53 am PDT #25395 of 30000
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

P-C, listen to Typo Boy. Typo Boy is wise. Go if you please, but please do not go if you will end up being a captive audience for the craxy. We love you. It would break our hearts for you to be broken the way you might if you get trapped. Also, if you have to spend the whole trip harshly defending your boundaries, you might not like yourself after.


smonster - Jul 14, 2010 9:33:21 am PDT #25396 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Typo Boy is wise, if tactless (I kid). (As the wise Cordelia Chase once said, "Tact is just not saying true stuff. I'll pass.")

And it is not like anyone will support you to your Mother's face. And plenty will support her to your face.

I am going to take a wild guess that you will be surrounded by a chorus of (mainly) women all echoing your mother and chastising you for being a bad son. Take a deep breath and consider carefully whether that is something you can endure, let alone enjoy, at this stage. If ever!

Also I offer this thought - just because it's "tradition" and "part of the culture" does not mean it isn't abuse.


Toddson - Jul 14, 2010 9:45:22 am PDT #25397 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

... do they do surprise weddings in India?


Trudy Booth - Jul 14, 2010 9:48:50 am PDT #25398 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

P-C, wouldn't this be the "find him a bride in India" trip?

No, we're going for a cousin's wedding.

To be frank, I don't see how these are mutually exclusive things.

To be blunt, you are out of your everloving mind if you don't think your mom is going to spend every minute of this thing a) trying to get you married; b)moaning that you aren't married; c) implying that you are horrible and killing her by not being married; and d) actively stating that you are horrible and killing her by not being married.

If you REALLY want to go to your cousin's wedding (I always do, my perpetually un/under-employed self has a credit card that is pretty much dedicated to this once or twice a year occurance) you buy the tickets and book the room and hang out with your family and ditch them sometimes too. She'll bitch and she'll even look right when she does what with you being an independent person and not hanging on her every moan. If you really want to go to your cousins wedding do it as a grown up who makes a nice living and pays his own way and know you'll piss her off. If you really want to go though, go.


§ ita § - Jul 14, 2010 9:50:18 am PDT #25399 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

For Aims. And Dana. And others.


Polter-Cow - Jul 14, 2010 10:12:37 am PDT #25400 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

If you really want to go though, go.

Oh, but I don't really want to go.


Daisy Jane - Jul 14, 2010 10:14:12 am PDT #25401 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Going to India sounds awesome as a general concept.

It does! That's why Imma do it in November! Wanna come with us P-C?

I have no practical advice about how to deal with an impending trip. I have not gone anywhere with either one of my parents since I was 16 or so.