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Polter-Cow - Jul 14, 2010 8:50:47 am PDT #25387 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

P-C, wouldn't this be the "find him a bride in India" trip?

No, we're going for a cousin's wedding.

I mean, I suspect even if you didn't want it to be your mom would not be dissuaded.

But yeah, this is my fear.

BTW, is girl from okCupid Gujarati, or just other-Indian-which would still be more acceptable to the parents?

Based on her last name, I'm pretty sure she's Gujarati.


sj - Jul 14, 2010 8:54:31 am PDT #25388 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I am the worst sitter ever. He fell asleep on the chair in the living room, and I just let him sleep there. But when he woke up he rolled over and hit the floor. He's not hurt, but I feel awful.


hippocampus - Jul 14, 2010 8:57:45 am PDT #25389 of 30000
not your mom's socks.

Go Hil! Go Defense!

(lines up for the early kick-in-the-pants line for Hil's soon-to-be-former advisor)


Steph L. - Jul 14, 2010 9:02:51 am PDT #25390 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I mean, I suspect even if you didn't want it to be your mom would not be dissuaded.

But yeah, this is my fear.

Going to India sounds awesome as a general concept.

Going to India with your parents, as things currently stand, sounds like a horrific way to eat up vacation time. IN HELL.


DavidS - Jul 14, 2010 9:06:29 am PDT #25391 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

But when he woke up he rolled over and hit the floor. He's not hurt, but I feel awful.

Next time roll up a towel and scootch it in behind to prevent the rolling off. (Learned this the hard way, also.)


sj - Jul 14, 2010 9:10:35 am PDT #25392 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Thanks, Hec. Normally I line the floor with pillows, but I didn't this time.


Typo Boy - Jul 14, 2010 9:20:30 am PDT #25393 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Go Hil.

And P-C I guarantee traveling with your parents and your Mother in particular will be traumatic. It is a chance to emotionally abuse you without your being able to hang up! No.

If this is a wedding you don't want to miss, you make enough money to buy your own plane ticket, rent a hotel room. Make an arrangement that it is practical for you to walk away if the abuse starts. Alternatively if this wedding is not that important to you skip it. You have just barely broken away from a cycle of abuse, and traveling with one of your abusers is not going to be a vacation for you. I know you don't like to think of your Mom that way. You love her and she loves you. But what she did to you and still tries to do to you is emotional abuse. And she is 100% convinced that she right and you are wrong, which means that there is no way she won't take advantage of any opening you give her. Firstly, since she thinks she is right she won't want to avoid taking advantage of it. And secondly she is not at a stage in dealing with you where she could skip the abuse if she tried.

Being constantly tormented, even surrounded by many people you love and in a region you love is not a vacation. And it is not like anyone will support you to your Mother's face. And plenty will support her to your face.

I'm one of those guys for whom tact is something you use to nail down carpets. Was this too tactless a way to put it?


Polter-Cow - Jul 14, 2010 9:28:17 am PDT #25394 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I may have to come up with an Important Work Project That I Just Cannot Get Out Of.


WindSparrow - Jul 14, 2010 9:28:53 am PDT #25395 of 30000
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

P-C, listen to Typo Boy. Typo Boy is wise. Go if you please, but please do not go if you will end up being a captive audience for the craxy. We love you. It would break our hearts for you to be broken the way you might if you get trapped. Also, if you have to spend the whole trip harshly defending your boundaries, you might not like yourself after.


smonster - Jul 14, 2010 9:33:21 am PDT #25396 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Typo Boy is wise, if tactless (I kid). (As the wise Cordelia Chase once said, "Tact is just not saying true stuff. I'll pass.")

And it is not like anyone will support you to your Mother's face. And plenty will support her to your face.

I am going to take a wild guess that you will be surrounded by a chorus of (mainly) women all echoing your mother and chastising you for being a bad son. Take a deep breath and consider carefully whether that is something you can endure, let alone enjoy, at this stage. If ever!

Also I offer this thought - just because it's "tradition" and "part of the culture" does not mean it isn't abuse.