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'The Message'


Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Shir - Nov 12, 2009 9:33:59 am PST #248 of 30000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

I think that the popularity of words involving female genitalia is based in the idea, subconscious or otherwise, that these are there to be degraded.

In Arabic (for Israelis cuss in Arabic, and Palestinians cuss in Hebrew), the wording is specifically about the other person's mom's genitalia.

I cuss a lot and use it a lot (it's got a nice "sssssssssss" in it), but since most if not all of my spoken cusses refer to non-living objects (books that fall on me, when I hit into tables, chairs, random objects in the hall, walls, etc.), I don't feel so bad about it.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Nov 12, 2009 9:34:28 am PST #249 of 30000
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Similarly, I was pondering 'dick,' which is pretty much universally an insult, right?

'Cock' and 'dick', the former in particular, seem to have connotations of confidence as well as of rudeness etc. The idea being that a man can be as much of a dick as he wants, he'll still be accepted by society, whereas a woman who's called a C-word is going nowhere. Or maybe I'm making that up. But it often feels that way.


Shir - Nov 12, 2009 9:35:36 am PST #250 of 30000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Heh. I just found out that "cuss", on a Hebrew keyboard, spells "lonely".


Ginger - Nov 12, 2009 9:35:50 am PST #251 of 30000
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

The one I am trying to strike is "jerry-rigged". Especially since it is supposed to be "jury-rigged".

Before I just googled, I had no idea how common "jerry-rigged" is. It apparently arose after WWII and became one of those weird folk etymology things. I had assumed it was just bad spelling for jury-rigged, which comes from a very old word for a temporary mast. People do, sadly, also say n-word rigged, but if they say it around me once, they're quite unlikely to say it around me again.


Polter-Cow - Nov 12, 2009 9:37:00 am PST #252 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I've eliminated "retarded" but KBD still says it (baby steps. i just got him to stop saying "gay" as a pejorative).

Now those I've been able to stop saying and raise my eyebrows when other people use them. "Gay" was easy because it's...just dumb. There isn't even any sort of etymological leg to stand on.

I still use "lame," though I try not to. I'm still dithering on "crazy," since I don't use it to describe people with actual mental illess but that's where it came from. Also, it's *deeply* ingrained.

We can't say "crazy" either? I guess I could eliminate "retarded" and "gay" easily because I could clearly see how pejorative they were to their respective groups, but I have trouble seeing "lame" and "crazy" as specifically insulting. Like you said, they're so ingrained. To me, they're just...words.


Aims - Nov 12, 2009 9:37:18 am PST #253 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I use douchebag pretty regularly. It has become one my go-to insults surpassing "cocksucker" and "twatwaffle" in my own personal vernacular. I get how it could be seen as an anti-woman insult, but I still use it and probably will continue to do so. I do not use "retarded" or "gay", we are working on getting them out of the household vernacular, but it's been hard. (Effing five year old calling everything "gay". I blame the schools.)


smonster - Nov 12, 2009 9:38:27 am PST #254 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

I was amused that the following is a "see also" in the wikipedia entry for "jury-rig."

MacGyver in popular culture


Shir - Nov 12, 2009 9:39:40 am PST #255 of 30000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Oh, and I usually don't cuss others. You know, the whole "I'm so weak and you can beat me up if I'll somehow upset you".

I just stare at them and let them feel bad about themsleves.


Steph L. - Nov 12, 2009 9:39:43 am PST #256 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I've eliminated "retarded" but KBD still says it (baby steps. i just got him to stop saying "gay" as a pejorative).

The Boy is really good about not using insults, period. (It pisses me off sometimes. I'm such a drama queen hothead, and he's so calm and kind.) However, he will SPRINT to get away from my feminist diatribes. He doesn't even like it when I say I'm SO over Family Guy because of all the rape jokes.

He's not in favor of rape, he doesn't think rape is funny, and has never, as long as I've known him, made a rape joke. He just doesn't like my feminist explication about why I don't like Family Guy anymore.

I'm still dithering on "crazy," since I don't use it to describe people with actual mental illess but that's where it came from.

Oh, I am SO with you on this.


tommyrot - Nov 12, 2009 9:39:48 am PST #257 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

We can't say "crazy" either?

Can't say "insane" either, unless you're referring to the logic of trolls.

Actually, I mostly use "crazy" to refer to ideas, not people.