Zoe: Don't think it's a good spot, sir. She still has the advantage over us. Mal: Everyone always does. That's what makes us special.

'Serenity'


Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Hil R. - Dec 05, 2009 3:47:28 pm PST #2456 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

You know how some books come out under different titles in different countries? "The Sexual Politics of Meat" sounds like "New Moon" published in werewolf country.

Ha! I haven't really gotten to the werewolf part yet -- I just got past the Oh! So tragic! pages where nothing happened from October through January . (The Sexual Politics of Meat is actually about how consumption of meat is linked to oppression of women. I'm not really far enough into it yet to determine how much I agree with the premise -- so far, I'm just on the first chapter, where the author is saying that, culturally, meat is coded as masculine food and vegetables as feminine food. So I'm mostly at, "Yes, tell me something I couldn't figure out by watching commercials for Hungry Man and Lean Cuisine." She's got a bunch of examples I hadn't thought of, but nothing yet that's gotten me beyond, "Yes, and...?" But I am just on the first chapter.)


Calli - Dec 05, 2009 3:47:49 pm PST #2457 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Hil's dad dreams big.


Zenkitty - Dec 05, 2009 3:58:33 pm PST #2458 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

The Sexual Politics of Meat is actually about how consumption of meat is linked to oppression of women.

Hmpf. She'll take my steak and bacon when she pries it out of my cold dead delicate feminine hands. The only use I have for Lean Cuisine is to feed it to pigs to make pork out of it.

If anything, I'd think eating vegetables would be part of the oppression of women, because we're supposed to be thin and cook healthy for our menfolk, who'd be eating solid animal fat if not for our nurturing and civilizing influence. But maybe I should wait until at least one of us has actually read the whole book before I start discussing it.


javachik - Dec 05, 2009 3:58:35 pm PST #2459 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

erin_o, that is awesome! What a great shiny gift to go with your new house!


Zenkitty - Dec 05, 2009 4:00:58 pm PST #2460 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

ooo, erin! shiny imac! I envy. Every time I say I want one, my sister tells me how much she hates her Mac and talks me out of it. (No, I don't know why she hates it.)


Hil R. - Dec 05, 2009 4:13:31 pm PST #2461 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

If anything, I'd think eating vegetables would be part of the oppression of women, because we're supposed to be thin and cook healthy for our menfolk, who'd be eating solid animal fat if not for our nurturing and civilizing influence. But maybe I should wait until at least one of us has actually read the whole book before I start discussing it.

So far, she's mostly just been talking about that division -- meat as masculine food, vegetables as feminine food -- and how the division, along with meat being considered higher quality food, is linked to women having lower status in society. I haven't yet gotten to anything about meat in particular, rather than just the usual "This is for men, and that's for women, and the men's stuff is clearly better," applied to food. She cited a bunch of studies of what working-class families in England ate in the 1800s, and most of them found that the families could only afford a little bit of meat each week, and that meat went to the husband, while the wife and kids ate mostly vegetables. There are a bunch of examples of stuff like that, but I'm not yet sure where she's going with all this. I picked up the book because people keep citing it in blog arguments, and I figured it sounded like it could be interesting.

The cover is decorated with lots of pictures from ads and menus and stuff like that of things like a naked women, crouching and smiling coyly at the viewer, wearing a cowboy hat, with her body divided up by dotted lines and the different cuts of meat labeled.


Hil R. - Dec 05, 2009 4:27:44 pm PST #2462 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I just remembered that I was going to get a box of Chanukah candles while I was in NJ, and I forgot. There are a bunch of stores in DC that I think might sell them, but all of them are just a little further than I want to walk to maybe not buy anything. I'm nearly positive that the grocery store at the Watergate sells them, but walking there with an unstable ankle through the slush and ice that I'm sure are going to be coating the sidewalks for the next day or two doesn't seem like the greatest idea. (The Watergate is at the bottom of a hill, and getting there from here involves crossing several streets where there's a crosswalk but no traffic light and the street is angled so that you can't really see the cars coming.)


§ ita § - Dec 05, 2009 4:29:46 pm PST #2463 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There are a bunch of stores in DC that I think might sell them, but all of them are just a little further than I want to walk to maybe not buy anything.

Why don't you call ahead?


Hil R. - Dec 05, 2009 4:38:51 pm PST #2464 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Why don't you call ahead?

Oh. Huh. That would be a good idea, wouldn't it?


sarameg - Dec 05, 2009 5:23:53 pm PST #2465 of 30000

My old Safeway carried the most gorgeous Chanukah candles. Gradations of blue and also red to yellow. I need to stock up on them again. They are just so pretty, I often put them in vases.