Kaylee: So, uh, how come you don't care where you're going? Book: 'Cause how you get there is the worthier part.

'Serenity'


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Laura - Jun 11, 2010 5:53:02 pm PDT #22208 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Bwah. e-post with MM.

Helen Thomas is a legend. Speaking her mind didn't change that for me. I'm looking forward to being a bat-shit crazy senile old broad. Yes, I'm still shaking my head and saying, why oh why, but still find her fascinating.

And I really have to go to bed! I get up early.


Typo Boy - Jun 11, 2010 6:01:16 pm PDT #22209 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I think I know various places this came from.

Start with being Lebonese. Given what Israel has done to Lebanon over the years you have a big base of anger building up over the years. Does not justify her point of view, but it is rather like some Jews I grew up with who hate Germans, and would not listen to Wagner or buy VWS or eat bratwurst. If enough of your relatives are killed by another nation, it is possible your anger won't stop with their government. Really not that different from the emotional thinking behind the Israeli blockade of Gaza.

Another thing that may have contributed to this is the whole culture of journalism. There is this whole false objectivity thing where journalists are not supposed to have opinions. But of course people have opinions, so all that means is that the opinions are there but unvoiced. Which means that since the opinions are unvoiced they can sometimes fester and mutate in the dark, because they are never brought into to the open when comparatively small and harmless and properly mocked.

I've seen cases on this board where someone brought out a comparatively mild anti-Semitic comment, or mildly homophobic opinion, without on this board. And they were called out on it and realized they had absorbed bad attitudes without realizing it and corrected themselves. And journalism kind of helps condition against it.

And I'm fine with Thomas being fired for this, and to me it really does not undo all the great work she did before. She did something wrong, apologized and took the consequences. But I'd like to see it applied to Glen Beck and to every journalist or politician who wants to repeal birthright citizenship. Demand apologies from all of them and then fire them regardless of whether they apologize or not.


Typo Boy - Jun 11, 2010 6:02:46 pm PDT #22210 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

And because it deserves a separate post - Sean, we all want you around for a long time to come. And please never ever think you are bothering anyone by saying what is on your mind, especially in a case like that.


Miracleman - Jun 11, 2010 6:13:46 pm PDT #22211 of 30000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

But I'd like to see it applied to Glen Beck and to every journalist or politician who wants to repeal birthright citizenship. Demand apologies from all of them and then fire them regardless of whether they apologize or not.

Amen, brother! Preach it from the mountain! Or whatever other geographical landmark you choose!


DavidS - Jun 11, 2010 6:18:29 pm PDT #22212 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Or whatever other geographical landmark you choose!

Sand bar! Bay of Biscayne!


Connie Neil - Jun 11, 2010 7:04:19 pm PDT #22213 of 30000
brillig

First world problem: I want to watch my gay porn videos. However, Hubby is right behind me with my monitor in full view, and he doesn't have my appreciation for gay porn. At all.

Will have to think of a way to get him out of the room with the computer. Or have him go to sleep.


Strix - Jun 11, 2010 7:09:12 pm PDT #22214 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Watch some really BORING gay porn first, so he'll fall asleep? Or leave?


Trudy Booth - Jun 11, 2010 7:15:50 pm PDT #22215 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

"Honey, if you run along and let me watch some gay porn I'll get all worked up and totally make it worth your while..."


DavidS - Jun 11, 2010 8:09:01 pm PDT #22216 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

How about, "I watch my porn, you watch yours and I'll meet you in the bedroom in twenty minutes."


Maria - Jun 11, 2010 8:16:22 pm PDT #22217 of 30000
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Thanks for all of the ~ma for my mom, everyone. She's still weighing the pros and cons.

Sean, do NOT apologize for bothering us. You are not a bother, and we want to know when you're feeling low. We love you, and that's not going to change.