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Shari_H - Jun 10, 2010 12:31:50 pm PDT #22009 of 30000
Keep breathing!

Shir, I am so sorry that happened to you. In Israeli terms, I'm probably somewhere between dati and chareidi (cover my hair 100%, pretty machmir about things, but I send my kids to a yeshiva that prepares them for college and let them -gasp-watch TV and listen to secular music) and I am outraged.

Sinat chinam (baseless hatred) destroyed our national life and sent us into galut (diaspora) 2000 years ago. There is no place for that kind of hatred, pettiness, or G-d forbid violence in the true Torah life. Men like that need to get real jobs, support their families, actually learn what Torah means, and raise their sons to go to hesder yeshivot (Torah institutions where students also serve in the army) at least, instead of faking it in the beit midrash, sucking on welfare checks and their wives' little jobs, and hanging out on street corners acting criminally stupid.

Late as ever - I haven't had time to come here in a while - but meant sincerely.

Toddson - Jun 10, 2010 12:32:12 pm PDT #22010 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Sean, anything we can do to help? long-distance snuggles?

erikaj - Jun 10, 2010 12:34:51 pm PDT #22011 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

Sean, been there. Not today, though. Often enough.

Toddson - Jun 10, 2010 12:37:09 pm PDT #22012 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Shir's experience is one of the reasons theocracies are scary. So much emphasis on the letter and so little on the spirit.

erikaj - Jun 10, 2010 12:41:03 pm PDT #22013 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

wrod. Also, if someone is Completely Wrong, and Damned, what is your incentive to accomodate them?

Ginger - Jun 10, 2010 12:41:23 pm PDT #22014 of 30000
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

It's really hard for me to grasp a mindset that says "God told me to play childish, dangerous practical jokes on women I don't approve of." Why would you worship a god like that? (Of course, considering what god did to Job....)

Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Jun 10, 2010 12:42:45 pm PDT #22015 of 30000
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

~ma of any kind needed, Sean.

erikaj - Jun 10, 2010 12:43:09 pm PDT #22016 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

Wrod. Perhaps a hobby...stamp collecting, or quiet reflection.

Connie Neil - Jun 10, 2010 12:44:20 pm PDT #22017 of 30000
brillig

(Of course, considering what god did to Job....)

I was so shocked when I realized the trials of Job were a bar bet with the devil.

smonster - Jun 10, 2010 12:48:10 pm PDT #22018 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

smonster, I'd never seen hollaback! THAT IS AWESOME!

Yer welcome! I never have the presence of mind/ovaries to hollaback, but I love that people are doing it.

I keep turning Shir's experience in my mind, trying to come up with karmic justice that wouldn't "invite" further violence... plainsclothes female cops walking the area with backup? Take back the streets mass action? And to be clear, Shir, I am not trying to imply that you should do any of these things. I'm just frustrated on your behalf and outraged.

I use a combo of Diva Cup and Lunapads. I find both much more comfortable than the disposable alternatives.

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