I got the feeling that waving a camera in their faces will only cause more violence from them.

Since they think they are RIGHT and God loves them and they find violence perfectly acceptable as a response to just about anything apparently, is there any response to them that is likely to accomplish anything but more violence? I don't even know how to deal with people who can't be reasoned with and place little value on the lives of others. Except nuke 'em from orbit, which may prove impractical.

Ugh Shir. That's just appalling.

I think it was yesterday someone posted a link to a Roger Ebert piece on the repainting of the school mural in Arizona. He writes that he can't really put himself in the place of the people who drove by yelling epithets at the painting, and I realize that's what I'm feeling now. I can't understand what kind of mindset it takes to want to inflict violence on women systematically in order to try to control--what? how they dress?! I don't get it. I can't imagine that degree of anger and resentment and fear about what somebody is wearing.

Hollaback sites sounds like a great idea, but I got the feeling that waving a camera in their faces will only cause more violence from them.

In general, they're addressing catcalling. Usually those guys aren't so much with the physical violence. They just like the power that harassing women gives them.

I like the gunmetal, Glam! I don't know how you can wear the scrunchy-backed shoes, they drive me crazy, but more power to you. Not big on the last pair, save the money for more awesomeness!!

I have to soon buy a pair of silver strappy sandals for the wedding I'm going to be in. I want cheap ones, cause...I so don't need any (my perfectly lovely pewter strappy sandals are not acceptable). And I'm already paying $180 for the dang dress.

Okay, WTFF? (Wacky shoes.) [link]

Hollaback sites sounds like a great idea, but I got the feeling that waving a camera in their faces will only cause more violence from them.

There's probably only so much the authorites will ignore from them, don't you think? "She took my picture so I punched her" could well be crossing the line.

Even before your assault today I've heard talk about it happening and its nauseating. PICTURES of it happening could be even more effective.

::snuggles Shir::

I know the local Hollaback site has had a number of postings about guys who grab women or, in a few instances, hit them. It makes me sad - especially since some of the physically aggressive ones, even when reported to authorities, seem to get away with it.

Shir, that's horrifying.

I wish I could video tape it. Cause it's not always just, "Hey Baby." it's a whole string of "Heybabyyoursobeautiful.HeyheyIknowyouhearme.Whatyouwonttalktome? FUCK YOU BITCH!"

There's probably only so much the authorites will ignore from them, don't you think? "She took my picture so I punched her" could well be crossing the line.

Yes, but I don't want to get the second punch. Not the first punch as well, as a matter of fact. Though I wonder if they'll cross the lines and lay their hands on a strange, impure woman who might be even, gasp, menstruating! (they just used a wire on me, which didn't require physical touch, which is forbidden).