On my seventh birthday, I wanted a toy fire truck, and I didn't get it, and you were real nice about it, and then the house next door burnt down, and then real firetrucks came, and for years I thought you set the fire for me. And if you did, you can tell me!

Xander ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Pix - Apr 27, 2010 2:06:23 pm PDT #17359 of 30000
The status is NOT quo.

I'm horrified. I have also just donated to OK Planned Parenthood and posted the story in Facebook in the hopes that might make some small difference.

askye, dammit, I'm so sorry. This is so not what you need right now.

Aims, GO YOU! You rock!

Hil, your interview sounds really promising!

ETA:

I want to live in a place where people who love each other can get married no matter what. I want to raise my daughter in a place where her brain is respected enough that her choices are respected. I want textbooks to teach history not pedantics. I want the entire conservative movement to experience a radical sex and color change (for starters) for a year without their retirement accunts so they can actually walk in someone else's shoes and not just bitch about how expensive and unworthy of the wearer they seem to be.

I want to be Sox.


Strix - Apr 27, 2010 2:11:30 pm PDT #17360 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

how is that even HPIAA compliant?

Apparently, a woman's rights are just subsumed totally by a fetus. We are, after all, just walking incubators. As long as a birth happens, the woman or the welfare of the fetus after it sucks outside air are of no importance -- the ability to suck the air takes total and utter precedence.

And letting doctors decide what to tell or not tell a patient as to affect possible decisions that they may or may not back, to let a doctor's ideology take precedence -- that's a slippery fucking slope. What's next -- not telling gay HIV patients, so they won't get medication, and die sooner, because a doctor doesn't believe in homosexuality? Not disclosing a brain tumor to an Arabic patient because you think they're a terrorist?

Where's the fucking Hippocratic oath? Where's the basic medical ethics 101 info? Where's the basic goddamned humanity?

Askye, oh no! I am sorry to hear that! Heal quick-ma, and don't come back-ma to you.

Feh. Feh, I say.


JZ - Apr 27, 2010 2:11:50 pm PDT #17361 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Oh, no, askye, I'm sorry!

I find the second law, the one protecting doctors who decide to withhold information about the fetus, to be a much bigger problem.

I don't know about much bigger, but it does feel like just as huge a problem, for a whole different set of horrifying reasons. It's really just fascinating, how much disregard and utter contempt for women both bills show, in such different but complementary ways.

I only wish I had ever planned to visit Oklahoma for any reason at all, so that it would mean something to boycott it.


meara - Apr 27, 2010 2:48:05 pm PDT #17362 of 30000

See, and the thing is, I think it would be totally interesting to gather statistics on why women are choosing abortion, and use that to try to get the rate of abortions down, if that's what you want to do--Is it that they are experiencing birth control failure? Need more contraception? Need access to the morning after pill? IS someone terminating due to a diagnosis of the fetus? Etc etc. But gather in bulk, not all "oh, a 27 year old married woman in tiny city got one last week! Wonder who THAT was.."


javachik - Apr 27, 2010 2:54:58 pm PDT #17363 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I am increasingly furious that the same demographic who insist on this shit is the same demographic that wants decreased funding for early childcare assistance in any and all forms. They care about the living until they can breathe on their own. After that, it's a big "FUCK YOU!"


Cashmere - Apr 27, 2010 2:57:32 pm PDT #17364 of 30000
Now tagless for your comfort.

Kinda like a prolife governor with a pregnant teenage daughter slashing funding for homes for unwed mothers? Yeah, it's a lot like that.


javachik - Apr 27, 2010 2:58:51 pm PDT #17365 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Kinda like a prolife governor with a pregnant teenage daughter slashing funding for homes for unwed mothers? Yeah, it's a lot like that.

PRECISEFUCKINGLY


Strix - Apr 27, 2010 2:59:08 pm PDT #17366 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Good point, meara. I think that information should be used to help girls and women make responsible, healthy choices, and stats and research that would be gathered with respect towards privacy (and, yo, medical ethics) is just fine. Let's work towards making contraception healthier, more user-friendly and safe; let's focus on education and decision-making; let's work towards empowering women and men, girls and boys, on being healthy and happy.

This legislation does NOT work towards that end.


javachik - Apr 27, 2010 2:59:27 pm PDT #17367 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Sorry for all of the swearing. Well, I am not sorry, but if it's uncool to swear this much on b.org, I trust you'll tell me.


Strix - Apr 27, 2010 2:59:52 pm PDT #17368 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

FUCK NO