How about the stupidity of creating a document in a program that not everyone who needs to use it can access and then only accepting electronic responses? (In that same, non-universal program.)

"I am a grown man. I make my own decisions. This is a MANLY DECISION. Grr argh, smell my testosterone! I respect and honor you. But my gonads say no. I BEAT MY CHEST AT YOU."

P-C, tell them this. Especially the gonads line.

Personally, I like the "I BEAT MY CHEST AT YOU," bit. Very effective.

P-C, as someone currently in the middle of a family battle that is riddled with emotional blackmail and being treated like an asshole by family members to the point of melting down and crying, it's hard to remember that fuck them - it's your life, but we'll keep reminding you of it so you feel more confident about it, okay babe?

Thanks, Aims. I really do like that quotation, "Friends are God's way of apologizing for your family."

Then, they get all upset when they have to memorize a scene they will be performing. Shockers!

Uh, have these people ever seen a play? Wait, do they think there are people in the wings holding up cue cards?

"Friends are God's way of apologizing for your family."

This.

"Friends are God's way of apologizing for your family."

I have a good family and still like this a lot

I also like this bit from Jerry Seinfeld's book, Sein Language :

Friends are the DNA of society. They are the basic building blocks of life.

btw, First Vet was confronted today by Second Vet.

I may not be a good person, saying this, but I loved hearing him squirm and full of remorse. That still doesn't compensate on the 5 weeks of pain my dog went through because of him, though. Not to mention the chance to save him then.

He gave us a name of another vet, though, that should help.

shit. I think it is time to let go of andy cat. I broght him out side and he had a hard time getting from a standing position to lying down

Oh beth. I'm so sorry.