Gwen: Demon, OK? The whole nine—cloven feet and horns and teeth. He wasn't wearing lamé though. Lorne: Yeah, the evil ones can't pull it off. It gets camp.

'Harm's Way'


Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Laga - Feb 25, 2010 2:15:39 pm PST #11319 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

This is kinda awesome

Monopoly games aided POW escapes


§ ita § - Feb 25, 2010 2:17:37 pm PST #11320 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

No wonder they won't let prisoners play D&D.


Shari_H - Feb 25, 2010 2:18:03 pm PST #11321 of 30000
Keep breathing!

*hearts Sean*

That POW story is great.


erikaj - Feb 25, 2010 2:20:36 pm PST #11322 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

That's great. Doesn't change torture being profoundly ineffective, in addition to a moral stain on on our nation. If you're looking to find consensus and peace, why are you bringing this up again? Because nothing says friendly delurk like people with hoods over their heads. Hello?


Gudanov - Feb 25, 2010 2:24:54 pm PST #11323 of 30000
Coding and Sleeping

The effectiveness with regard to KSM is in dispute.

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Shari_H - Feb 25, 2010 2:33:36 pm PST #11324 of 30000
Keep breathing!

That's great. Doesn't change torture being profoundly ineffective, in addition to a moral stain on on our nation. If you're looking to find consensus and peace, why are you bringing this up again? Because nothing says friendly delurk like people with hoods over their heads. Hello?

Ericka, I'm agreeing to disagree on "torture". Didn't ask for consensus and peace. Brought it up because people mentioned it in responding to me at first. Hood over their heads? I don't wear one. (Well, I cover my hair, but not with a hood.) KSM in a hood doesn't bother me a bit. And if my once-a-year posts over the years don't count as delurking, see last year's delurk thread from a couple of months ago.

Gud, torture may not be effective (people will do anything to make the pain stop), but putting the fear of hell into one of these alQaeda guys works for me. The Christmas bomber babbled because he was afraid of what would happen to him. When he got Mirandized and realized he was going to a nice warm cell and not the hell-hole he imagined, he stopped talking. Maybe his family convinced him later to talk again, but I want to know what happened to the guys who trained and send him from Yemen. Did we catch them? Can we? Or did they ditch their cell phones and email addresses and move on?


Gudanov - Feb 25, 2010 2:42:57 pm PST #11325 of 30000
Coding and Sleeping

The last I heard the other people in Yemen were being perused. But Yemen is a lot like Afghanistan, there is little government control and the region is largely mountainous and inaccessible. It's another place where it's difficult to find anyone.

I'll add there was a definite mess-up by the Obama administration by not yet having the special high value interrogation unit fully up and running yet. They were too slow in establishing that since announcing it in August.


Hil R. - Feb 25, 2010 2:46:23 pm PST #11326 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Ow. Too many joints are hurting at once, and I can't find any way to sit or lie down that doesn't put pressure on something.


Barb - Feb 25, 2010 2:48:06 pm PST #11327 of 30000
“Not dead yet!”

So... salad shooters.


Laga - Feb 25, 2010 2:55:13 pm PST #11328 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

So... salad shooters.

I'm against them