And we live to fight another day.

Mal ,'Objects In Space'


Delurking 1: Because we don't always check our e-mail.


Jars - Oct 25, 2016 10:44:49 pm PDT #2765 of 3094

I am clinging to the forlorn hope that Brexit won't actually happen, but who knows? Let's at least make sure that it's the only insanely stupid decision made by the electorate of a western nation this year.

Yes times a million. There's a good chance we'll be kicked out of the UK at some point if Theresa May gets her way. But my being Irish might save us depending on what they do with the treaties. Or, G can apply for British citizenship in a year or so, but that costs over £1000 now so isn't the ideal solution. I'm not really sure I want to be here anymore either, seeing as how we're not wanted and all.

So yeah, situation in total flux. Thanks, Brexit.


Fiona - Oct 25, 2016 11:19:14 pm PDT #2766 of 3094

Some of us are still night owls and you just may catch us online when you post.

Ah yes, the night shift. We should revive that.

Gosh yes, Jars, being Irish puts you in another part of the Brexit Venn diagramm. The whole thing is utter, utter pants.

Because my partner and children live here, and because I need to be able to work here, I'm currently looking at taking up German citizenship. However, it's not only pretty expensive but would also mean having to give up my US Citizenship, which I really don't want to do. See that rock here and the hard place thataway? That's where we are. Thanks Brexit indeed.


Jars - Oct 26, 2016 12:50:02 am PDT #2767 of 3094

However, it's not only pretty expensive but would also mean having to give up my US Citizenship, which I really don't want to do.

Oh no, is that a 'can't have 3 citizenships' thing? Because while technically that seems to be true, I know at least a few people who have 3 or 4. No one seem to cross-reference.


Fiona - Oct 26, 2016 2:08:26 am PDT #2768 of 3094

It's not the number of citizenships per se that's the issue, it's how and when you acquire them. If you automatically receive more than one at birth, that's no problem; my kids have three.

But if you want to take on the citizenship of another country, your original state may boot you out. The US doesn't recognise dual citizenship and will remove citizenship if you pledge alliegance to another state. German and UK dual citizenship is possible at the moment (but only has been for a couple of years) because they're both in the EU. That will change, so there's a bit of a rush.

ALL of my British friends here who are eligible have already taken German citizenship. I'm only dithering because of the complications.


-t - Oct 26, 2016 3:34:17 am PDT #2769 of 3094
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Happy birthday, Fiona!

Get it together, nation-states, and stop screwing over your citizens.


Jars - Oct 26, 2016 3:36:30 am PDT #2770 of 3094

The US doesn't recognise dual citizenship and will remove citizenship if you pledge alliegance to another state.

Oh crap that's super worrying - we were told DH could have both. Argh.

We'll be getting all three for the baby once it pops out though.

Get it together, nation-states, and stop screwing over your citizens.

Seriously.


Fiona - Oct 26, 2016 4:05:23 am PDT #2771 of 3094

Oh crap that's super worrying - we were told DH could have both. Argh.

Do check because my information could be out of date. I'm going to the nearest consulate soon to discuss options.

Friends of mine acquired US citizenship and kept their British. That way round isn't a problem.

Thank you, -t! I'm making my favourite cake, coffee-walnut, ahead of the final of Bake-Off and a wee party this evening.


Maria - Oct 26, 2016 5:44:58 am PDT #2772 of 3094
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

(Popping in...)

The US doesn't recognise dual citizenship and will remove citizenship if you pledge alliegance to another state.

Not necessarily true, Fiona. The U.S. doesn't formally recognize dual citizenship, but hasn't taken any actions to prohibit it. The only way you can lose your U.S. citizenship is by affirmative actions showing intent:

The loss of U.S. citizenship can only occur if a person's actions demonstrate an intent to give up his or her citizenship. Such actions might include:

Serving in the armed forces of a country which is engaged in hostilities against the United States.

Formally renouncing one's U.S. citizenship in front of a duly authorized U.S. official.

Committing an act of treason against the United States, or attempting or conspiring to overthrow the U.S. Government.

Voluntarily applying for another citizenship will only terminate your U.S. citizenship if you have the intention of terminating it. [link]

Jars, it shouldn't be a problem for your DH to obtain UK citizenship and keep his U.S. A high school friend of mine lives in London, is married to a Scotsman, and is going for UK citizenship. He is not losing his U.S. passport.


WindSparrow - Oct 26, 2016 5:45:47 am PDT #2773 of 3094
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

It's good to see your post, Fiona. I'm sorry that your job situaion is so much less than ideal.


Fiona - Oct 26, 2016 5:59:59 am PDT #2774 of 3094

Thanks Maria, that's very helpful! I shall get to the consulate ASAP. I need to renew my US passport anyway.