Buffy? I like that. That girl's so hot, she's buffy.

Forrest ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Sep 16, 2009 7:27:07 pm PDT #9306 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, god, there's a guy from Barcelona on OKCupid IMing me who wants to talk dirty with me. I guess I could just close the window, but I feel I should talk my way out of it graciously.


Allyson - Sep 16, 2009 7:29:50 pm PDT #9307 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I have a pretty boy from Sweden who does the same thing, but also wants to talk to me about science all the time. He's a little cutiehead.


§ ita § - Sep 16, 2009 7:42:17 pm PDT #9308 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, my browser crashed so he disappeared. I really didn't want to get into anything with him. He was kinda creepy.


§ ita § - Sep 16, 2009 7:45:53 pm PDT #9309 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, look. He's back. And he wants to visit me. I should have just left the site.


Calli - Sep 17, 2009 2:07:19 am PDT #9310 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

By relocating ourselves, we shake loose the shackles of expectation.

Worked for me when I was 15. And at other times. Now that means whenever I get really stressed I start considering moving. That could become rather expensive therapy if I let it, so I don't.


flea - Sep 17, 2009 2:24:12 am PDT #9311 of 30001
information libertarian

Ginger, if it comes to it, you and Mr. Peabody should paddle out this way. We're on high ground.


Theodosia - Sep 17, 2009 2:41:12 am PDT #9312 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

By relocating ourselves, we shake loose the shackles of expectation.

Sorry, sarameg, others: I was trying to be specific about it being substance abuse issues you can't just 'move away' from, not that, in fact, physically moving to a different community can be life-enhancing.

Note that I moved away from New Jersey to Boston and stayed here, much much happier with the culture and opportunities.


Barb - Sep 17, 2009 2:57:06 am PDT #9313 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”

You know, there's something to be said for staying and toughing it out, as it were, but at some point you have to take a step back, take a long, considering look, and ask yourself, "is it worth being this unhappy?"

Which is where Lewis and I found ourselves, in our particular case. We didn't move from Ohio to Jacksonville because we particularly wanted to. This was a case where we did it for the benefit of our kids and it was the right choice for that time. However, I think we've gotten the most out of our time here and at this point, the negatives far outweigh any future benefits.

Which is not a response to anything in particular, just me parsing stuff out in the wake of poor Lewis being ambushed by his parents yesterday.


Ginger - Sep 17, 2009 3:01:14 am PDT #9314 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Thanks, flea. If I have to take to a boat, I'll paddle your way. Last night, my sloped yard looked like a river and the terraced parts like waterfalls. By the light of day, I see that a depressing amount of my back yard is on my patio and there are deep gullies in my vegetable garden and a couple of newly planted collard plants are on their way to the sea. Today's weather looks to be more of the same.


Nora Deirdre - Sep 17, 2009 3:06:04 am PDT #9315 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Alyson, my personal opinion is that the anger that men feel toward fat or otherwise unattractive-to-them women is a general misogyny thing, not just an anti-fat thing.

Some men feel that we, as women, *owe* it to them to look (and act, to some extent) like someone they want to fuck. If we dare to be unfuckable (to them) and seem OK WITH IT, then that ignites the rage. How dare we? How dare we live our lives not according to WHAT THEY WANT and what they desire?

The misogyny, it burns.