Gwen: Demon, OK? The whole nine—cloven feet and horns and teeth. He wasn't wearing lamé though. Lorne: Yeah, the evil ones can't pull it off. It gets camp.

'Harm's Way'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - Sep 16, 2009 6:02:35 am PDT #9098 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

Hey, some actual health care policy arguments from republicans. Yea.

New Objections to Baucus Health Care Proposal

I think there are even some, well 'some' might be too strong a word, maybe 'a couple of', reasonable idea(s).

The committee documents show that Mr. Grassley has reservations about this approach. He believes that “the individual responsibility to have health coverage should be reconsidered and replaced with a reinsurance policy to ensure that affordable health coverage is available to everyone in a voluntary system, with a lower overall cost for the package,” one document says.

I think a reasonable idea to consider. I believe this was a good idea that Kerry had in his 2004 campaign.

The third Republican in the group, Senator Olympia J. Snowe of Maine, is pushing another idea to make insurance readily available. She urged her colleagues to “allow private insurance companies to offer national plans, with uniform benefit packages that are offered across state lines.”

This sounds reasonable as long as it isn't a mechanism to avoid state regulation sort of like how all credit cards seem to come from Delaware.

Then there is the expansion of Medicaid causing problems for state budgets, though I think the phase in of state vs. federal obligation might be a reasonable approach that Rs would object to.

Anyhow it's good to hear of some actual policy debate, even if I don't like a lot of the Repub ideas.


tommyrot - Sep 16, 2009 6:03:12 am PDT #9099 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I'm totally waiting for a personals ad saying she won't respond to replies with bad grammar or spelling... and the ad itself has a grammar or spelling mistake. Because then I'd reply just to point out the error.

But so far I haven't found an example of this. So it seems there is a high correlation between someone's dislike of writing mistakes of others and their own lack of mistakes. Oh well.


Gudanov - Sep 16, 2009 6:04:23 am PDT #9100 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

Not a common one at all, but I think I mentioned the fanfic where Eric got "eternal" bleeding.

Dude's going to need to drink a lot of fluids.


tommyrot - Sep 16, 2009 6:05:06 am PDT #9101 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Maybe he could get a bottomless cup of coffee.


brenda m - Sep 16, 2009 6:10:58 am PDT #9102 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

This sounds reasonable as long as it isn't a mechanism to avoid state regulation sort of like how all credit cards seem to come from Delaware.

There's no way it could function otherwise, not without imposing some pretty rigid federal standards. And gee, how well is that likely to play?


tommyrot - Sep 16, 2009 6:17:15 am PDT #9103 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

More conservatives attack Limbaugh's race-baiting:

Calling Out Race-Baiting

Dreher whacks Limbaugh; Goldblog whacks Drudge. Conor echoes. Dreher reveals the conscience of a real conservative:

Look, I think it's important to talk about black male violence, or at least as important as it is to talk about any other important social trend. I don't think we should be squeamish about discussing it in a responsible and fair-minded way, despite what the politically correct say. But good grief, Limbaugh is up to something wicked. He's plainly trying to rally white conservatives into thinking that now that we have a black president, blacks are rising up to attack white kids! Christ have mercy, what is wrong with these people?

I won't have anything to do with it, not even tangentially, which is why I took down the post. I can't see this as anything other than Limbaugh deliberately trying to whip up racial fear and loathing of the president. This goes far, far beyond tough criticism of Obama. Does that man Limbaugh have any idea what rough beast he's calling forth?

If you find some others on the right willing to stand up to this evil, let me know.

Please, please, please, can we have more conservatives calling out Limbaugh?


Gudanov - Sep 16, 2009 6:17:44 am PDT #9104 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

There's no way it could function otherwise, not without imposing some pretty rigid federal standards.

That's what I want to see to make that work, if you offer a nationwide plan you have to conform to federal regulations (what could be more constitutional? it's interstate commerce). Yeah, unrealistic though.


Steph L. - Sep 16, 2009 6:20:45 am PDT #9105 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Does that man Limbaugh have any idea what rough beast he's calling forth?

The truly disgusting -- and criminal, IMO -- part of this is that I believe that Limbaugh knows EXACTLY what rough beast he's calling forth.


msbelle - Sep 16, 2009 6:22:55 am PDT #9106 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Good for Dreher. See, a person I can disagree with on most issues, but who is not going to attack me, or raise my hackles enough to want to attack him. (mostly) Respectful discourse.

  • *note - that I do not read his stuff everyday, because no.


tommyrot - Sep 16, 2009 6:24:08 am PDT #9107 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Another conservative attacks Limbaugh:

Why I Have Contempt for Rush Limbaugh

Already Mr. Limbaugh’s behavior is raising the ire of folks who already dislike him, but this transgression against honesty and prudence is so obvious and grave that his audience members should take it upon themselves to contact the talk radio host, politely articulate why his commentary in this instance is so irresponsible, and request that he never engage in such behavior again. It is Mr. Limbaugh’s listeners who have the most pull here. Those who say nothing, and continue tuning into this kind of rhetoric, share partial responsibility for worsening the country in which they live, though the bulk of responsibility will always reside with the millionaire race agitator himself.