You've got my support. Just think of me as...as your... You know, I'm searching for 'supportive things' and I'm coming up all bras.

Xander ,'Empty Places'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Sep 10, 2009 8:47:23 am PDT #7829 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I have to say, the one good thing about Facebook's newsfeed going kablooey over the past week is it's saved me from getting too involved in any political discussions.


Glamcookie - Sep 10, 2009 8:48:06 am PDT #7830 of 30001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

I've been using the FB Hide functionality when I feel my blood pressure rising. Sweet relief.


sarameg - Sep 10, 2009 8:52:14 am PDT #7831 of 30001

Disease isn't so good about respecting borders.


Steph L. - Sep 10, 2009 8:55:05 am PDT #7832 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I think it's just good public health policy, not even getting into anything else.

Fuck yeah. Like vaccinations. (And ugh, I have a good friend who I think is extremely smart -- is in nursing school, as a matter of fact -- whose oldest just started kindergarten, and my friend isn't vaccinating his kids. He says he's researched the hell out of it, and he's intelligent and this isn't a decision he made without a lot of study. And I believe him, but it still pisses me off BIG TIME.)


lisah - Sep 10, 2009 9:00:55 am PDT #7833 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

He says he's researched the hell out of it, and he's intelligent and this isn't a decision he made without a lot of study.

But WHERE has he done the research? What legitimate scientific studies can he point to that prove vaccinations are bad?

man, few subjects make me angrier.


Aims - Sep 10, 2009 9:02:05 am PDT #7834 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Our friends are waiting to vaccinate because they found out that their children are both allergic to metal. Their first was vaccinated and was diagnosed as autistic, which their doctors believe is associated with the metal from the needles, and not thimerisol. Their second is also autistic, but they are treating it medically and will vaccinate when the kids' systems are better able to process the metal toxins. Them, I give a pass. They have genetic and medical proof that their kids can't process metals out of their system.

But I look askance at anyone else who doesn't vaccinate their kids.


Jessica - Sep 10, 2009 9:10:45 am PDT #7835 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

He says he's researched the hell out of it, and he's intelligent and this isn't a decision he made without a lot of study

For "study" read "crazy deluded internet propaganda," maybe. The science is not on his side, and I'm glad his kids aren't in my kid's school district.

Personally, I think that if you don't vaccinate your children (without a legitimate MEDICAL excuse), you shouldn't be able to send them to public school. (Vaccinations are already required in most school districts, but it's ridiculously easy to get a religious exemption. I'm all for freedom of religion, but I draw the line at willfully endangering public health.)

(And obviously, vaccinations should be free and distributed as widely as possible.)


StuntHusband - Sep 10, 2009 9:11:18 am PDT #7836 of 30001
Electromagnetic candy! - Stark

Apparently those family members don't need to eat.

Yeah, well...the fact that the financial stability of the agriculture business in the US is based on looking away from "law-breaking", because rich white folk are too prissy to do the HARD JOBS associated with getting food into and out of the ground...

...yeah. But I don't have any opinions here. Nope. Not a one.


Kathy A - Sep 10, 2009 9:12:16 am PDT #7837 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Cat ambush!!


Jessica - Sep 10, 2009 9:13:06 am PDT #7838 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Our friends are waiting to vaccinate because they found out that their children are both allergic to metal.

This, for example, is a legitimate medical excuse. And people who choose not to vaccinate for nonmedical reasons are putting THESE children at risk by lowering herd immunity for everyone.

t /HEAD SPLODY RAGE