I battle evil. But I don't really win. The bad keeps coming back and getting stronger. Like that kid in the story, the boy that stuck his finger in the duck.

Buffy ,'Showtime'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Daisy Jane - Sep 06, 2009 6:45:53 am PDT #7167 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I am liberal, but I think most people are good. I think we would like to help everyone, but as individuals, we don't really have a way of doing it. I don't actually have the money to buy a doctor's visit for someone, but I don't actually mind paying taxes that will give someone good health care.

Anyway, bar has a bbq today, and I'm trying to figure out optimum time to leave and arrive so as to a) see the most people I want to hang out with and b) not get completely trashed. Hubby's cooking all day (and night) so I kind of want it to be as late as possible.


tommyrot - Sep 06, 2009 7:09:30 am PDT #7168 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Atheist LOLCat: [link]


Sue - Sep 06, 2009 7:12:49 am PDT #7169 of 30001
hip deep in pie

Facebook tells me it's both Flea's and Tom W. bithday. Happy birthday you guys!


DavidS - Sep 06, 2009 7:14:21 am PDT #7170 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I don't think presumption of innate human goodness is a core conservative value.

I think the presumption that everybody is responsible for their actions and circumstances is the basis for conservative thought.


tommyrot - Sep 06, 2009 7:17:27 am PDT #7171 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I don't think presumption of innate human goodness is a core conservative value.

I agree with Hec. Isn't one conservative value that people are innately selfish, but by pursuing their own self-interests they make markets more efficient?


tommyrot - Sep 06, 2009 7:20:56 am PDT #7172 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

ION, go here: [link] and scroll down a bit:

The Reconstructed Glory of the "Amber Room"

Built by German and Russian craftsmen in 1701-1709, this incredible room in the Catherine Palace of Tsarskoye Selo near Saint Petersburg is often called the "Eighth Wonder of the World"

Holy shit.

Then scroll down a bunch more to the "Incredible Uninhabited Island." Perhaps not the best location for Buffista Island, but a good location for Buffista Secret World Domination Plan Island Fortress.


tommyrot - Sep 06, 2009 7:31:15 am PDT #7173 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Another conservative belief is the nonperfectability of Man. We're all flawed, but there's nothing we can do about it. Therefor all Utopian programs like liberalism and socialism are doomed to failure. Or something.


msbelle - Sep 06, 2009 8:17:02 am PDT #7174 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Really lovely day at the open. We watched serena on the big tvs while we had an early lunch (beating all crowds) got back into ferrerro/simon one changeover before they closed gates to free entry and started looooooong lines. And now we are in our reserved seats in ashe for the duration with cold beverages. Mac is enthralled b/c his fave, rafi, is playing. I have promised many snacks for the rest of the day to keep him occupied for the venus match following.


msbelle - Sep 06, 2009 8:17:05 am PDT #7175 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

msbelle - Sep 06, 2009 8:19:34 am PDT #7176 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb