Inara: So. Would you like to lecture me on the wickedness of my ways? Book: I brought you some supper, but if you'd prefer a lecture, I've a few very catchy ones prepped. Sin and hellfire... one has lepers.

'Serenity'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Aug 24, 2009 10:15:33 am PDT #5323 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I don't understand how you get there from where you started. Please elaborate.

As I see the internet eliminate local market inefficiences, I suspect I'm seeing something closer to the actual production value of things being sold.

In sum, it really doesn't cost that much to make the things we buy. That market values are manipulated to maintain profits. (And I'm not arguing that in an OMG! I'm shocked to find profiteering in a capitalist economy! I just think that's inherent to the system.)

Food production costs have been going up a lot worldwide, as they are largely dependent on the cost of fuel (for fertilizer, fieldwork, transportation, etc).

Yeah, but fuel costs are subject to a huge amount of collusion and market manipulation.

eta: The more cynical part of my assumption is that free market forces aren't allowed to work because (as 19th century industrial barons noted - "Competition is death to profits.") But that's not my main point. I just have the feeling that if you divided the wealth of the world economy by the population then everybody would have plenty.

Of course, I can't really imagine how the economy continues to work without rich people having all their dosh and other people striving to get theirs.

But I think the spectacle (in Debord's sense) necessary to maintain continued economic growth is harder to maintain when there's a saturation of abundance.


tommyrot - Aug 24, 2009 10:32:14 am PDT #5324 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Someone invented a new food thingie! The "Silly Rabbit," which is "French toast breaded in crushed Trix cereal."

[link]


Frankenbuddha - Aug 24, 2009 10:33:51 am PDT #5325 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Yet another example of "just because you can doen't mean you should". See also, sandwiches that put fries IN the sandwich.


DavidS - Aug 24, 2009 10:34:48 am PDT #5326 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Someone invented a new food thingie! The "Silly Rabbit," which is "French toast breaded in crushed Trix cereal."

This kind of supports my theory that we have achieved a state of More Than Enough.


DavidS - Aug 24, 2009 10:35:44 am PDT #5327 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

See also, sandwiches that put fries IN the sandwich.

But that's like an old English tradition. I remember the Bay City Rollers making "chip butties" on Dinah Shore's Show. t /is old

Also they've been doing that in Pittsburgh all-in-one sandwiches for decades.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 24, 2009 10:36:41 am PDT #5328 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

But that's like an old English tradition.

So was scurvy, once upon a time.


Jesse - Aug 24, 2009 10:42:40 am PDT #5329 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Now I want a potato sandwich.


Burrell - Aug 24, 2009 10:44:22 am PDT #5330 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Hi everybody! Thanks for the birthday wishes for Frances. She feels like she is a very big girl.

We just came home from a late summer vacay, and I had to teach today. A bit discombobulated, but we had fun.

I have nothing to add to the healthcare discussion except that opposition to affordable heathcare still makes me seethe with rage. And to Hec, there's a book you may want to check out called Free.


Gudanov - Aug 24, 2009 10:46:54 am PDT #5331 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

And to Hec, there's a book you may want to check out called Free.

Wow, that's the second time that book has been mentioned to me today in wildly different contexts. One of those moments of freaky Internet convergence.


Sue - Aug 24, 2009 10:47:54 am PDT #5332 of 30001
hip deep in pie

But that's like an old English tradition. I remember the Bay City Rollers making "chip butties" on Dinah Shore's Show.

Is that fries or potato chips?

Someone invented a new food thingie! The "Silly Rabbit," which is "French toast breaded in crushed Trix cereal."

I've seen recipe for salmon breaded in chips.