Police procedure has changed since I was little.

Wash ,'The Message'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Miracleman - Aug 21, 2009 10:23:45 am PDT #4933 of 30001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Jesus Jump-Frogging Christ.

More and more I'm starting to think that we have to treat the wacko ultra-right-wing Conservatives as more of a cult than a political fringe.

Like Scientology, but without the tax breaks.


Polter-Cow - Aug 21, 2009 10:24:28 am PDT #4934 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Dammit, Texas. I think I had a pretty good public school education. Don't fuck it up.


Sparky1 - Aug 21, 2009 10:28:31 am PDT #4935 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

Texas teaching the bible in public schools this year: [link]


Hil R. - Aug 21, 2009 10:29:46 am PDT #4936 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Texas textbook changes impact way more than just Texas. In some states, each individual school district or school picks which textbooks it uses. In other states, the state board of education picks which books are used for all the schools in the state. Texas and California are both statewide-textbook-choice states, and so publishers will do just about anything to get Texas and California to pick their books, including editing them to fit whatever standards those school boards want. And then those textbooks, made to fit the Texas and California standards, are the same ones being offered for sale to schools all over the country.


-t - Aug 21, 2009 10:30:52 am PDT #4937 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Earlier this year, a panel of right-wing “experts” produced a report urging the committee to remove biographies of George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and Stephen F. Austin, César Chávez, and instead add history about the “motivational role the Bible and the Christian faith played in the settling of the original colonies.”

George Washington? Really? And Abraham Lincoln the first Republican president? Weird.


Connie Neil - Aug 21, 2009 10:31:13 am PDT #4938 of 30001
brillig

Hil just answered my question as to how Texas has so much power over textbooks. I mean, surely they don't have more schoolkids than the rest of the country. I'd say Utah might have an edge on schoolaged people, but I don't want Utah deciding proper curricula either.


Jessica - Aug 21, 2009 10:31:26 am PDT #4939 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Part of my job is editing educational video modules for textbook publishers, and I can't even tell you the number of times we've been asked to change something "because it needs to sell in Texas."


Hil R. - Aug 21, 2009 10:32:32 am PDT #4940 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I think the weirdest textbook change I've heard of was a short story that a teenage girl wrote that won a contest from YM magazine. This story was really good, and a publisher wanted to put it in their English textbook for seventh or eighth grade. One scene in the story had the characters sitting by a pool eating ice cream. California had recently put in rules that their schools should teach healthy eating habits, and the textbook committee asked the publisher to change it so that the characters were eating strawberries. I can't remember whether they actually changed that one or not.


Gudanov - Aug 21, 2009 10:37:06 am PDT #4941 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

Texas teaching the bible in public schools this year.

I can see how teaching the Bible as literature could be a good thing. The odds of the class not getting used to proselytize? I don't know.


Polter-Cow - Aug 21, 2009 10:37:06 am PDT #4942 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

"I think it is a good thing because a lot of kids don't have that experience, and they already want to take prayer out of school as it is, and you see where our kids are ending up!" said Tyler resident Laura Tucker.

Aha! If only we taught the Bible in school, our children wouldn't end up junkie prostitute murderers.

(I am really confused about this "a lot of kids don't have that experience" thing. Don't people go to Bible study already? And if you are not Christian, I'm pretty sure you know the Bible exists, and you have chosen not to study it.)

"The purpose of a course like this isn't even really to get kids to believe it, per se, it is just to appreciate the profound impact that it has had on our history and on our government."

And I'm pretty sure the history textbooks already mention that impact.