These girls have the most beautiful dresses. And so do I -- how about that?

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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - Aug 21, 2009 10:37:06 am PDT #4941 of 30001
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Texas teaching the bible in public schools this year.

I can see how teaching the Bible as literature could be a good thing. The odds of the class not getting used to proselytize? I don't know.


Polter-Cow - Aug 21, 2009 10:37:06 am PDT #4942 of 30001
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"I think it is a good thing because a lot of kids don't have that experience, and they already want to take prayer out of school as it is, and you see where our kids are ending up!" said Tyler resident Laura Tucker.

Aha! If only we taught the Bible in school, our children wouldn't end up junkie prostitute murderers.

(I am really confused about this "a lot of kids don't have that experience" thing. Don't people go to Bible study already? And if you are not Christian, I'm pretty sure you know the Bible exists, and you have chosen not to study it.)

"The purpose of a course like this isn't even really to get kids to believe it, per se, it is just to appreciate the profound impact that it has had on our history and on our government."

And I'm pretty sure the history textbooks already mention that impact.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 21, 2009 10:39:12 am PDT #4943 of 30001
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Like Ginger said, understanding the bible and the influence the bible has had is really important in english literature. And if you teach nothing with religious themes and nothing with sexual themes, and nothing with bad behavior, fiction is about as interesting as the back of a cereal box. However, I doubt that is the actual point of the Texas law. Plus, weren't the Texans the ones regulating lighting designers in a really stupid was?


Kat - Aug 21, 2009 10:39:55 am PDT #4944 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

President says something is wee-weed up. WHAT?


Fred Pete - Aug 21, 2009 10:39:59 am PDT #4945 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

I want to believe that's a joke. I mean, I can't see how even Texas right-wingers would go along with eliminating George Washington and Stephen Austin from the history books.

On the other hand, I've been burned before by thinking, "No, that's just too craxy."


Gudanov - Aug 21, 2009 10:40:23 am PDT #4946 of 30001
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it is just to appreciate the profound impact that it has had on our history and on our government.

They should combine the class with the Qur'an as literature and in history since the impact on world politics is enormous.


Glamcookie - Aug 21, 2009 10:42:19 am PDT #4947 of 30001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Part of my job is editing educational video modules for textbook publishers, and I can't even tell you the number of times we've been asked to change something "because it needs to sell in Texas."

Oh yeah. I worked as an editor for a major textbook publisher for years and we had to do "special editions" and also put all controversial topics into ancillary materials. I worked on an AIDS one, and it just infuriated me that many states wouldn't use it. Arg.


Hil R. - Aug 21, 2009 10:43:04 am PDT #4948 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I vaguely recall Texas insisting on removing a reference to prostitution in the Old West from a high school textbook (like, one sentence mentioning that there were prostitutes there) because American history classes are supposed to instill a sense of pride in our country, and that's not something to be proud of.


Gudanov - Aug 21, 2009 10:44:57 am PDT #4949 of 30001
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I vaguely recall Texas insisting on removing a reference to prostitution in the Old West from a high school textbook (like, one sentence mentioning that there were prostitutes there) because American history classes are supposed to instill a sense of pride in our country, and that's not something to be proud of.

That's just sad. Um, not that they didn't have pride in prostitution, that history classes would put facts second to propaganda.


Glamcookie - Aug 21, 2009 10:45:38 am PDT #4950 of 30001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Tangentially related, the funniest letter we got at that publisher (in our division anyway) was in reference to a misspelling of the word "public" that had a classroom of 7th graders howling with laughter. Bet you can't guess which letter was missing...