I know I'm a bad poet, but I'm a good man. All I ask is that... is that you try to see me—

William ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sue - Aug 11, 2009 9:47:12 am PDT #3175 of 30001
hip deep in pie

I'm just going to do a rage pile on. I read this story last night and I don't know why there isn't more outrage, or why this guy is allowed to continue sitting on the bench:

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Can a busy female politician give reliable evidence? A judge says no

Lisa MacLeod is a young female politician who commutes to her job at Queen's Park from Ottawa and leaves her husband, Joe, and four-year-old daughter, Victoria, at home. Mr. Justice Douglas Cunningham of Ontario Superior Court said this is a big distraction for the 34-year-old woman and as a result he felt he could not accept her evidence as corroboration of the Crown's key witness in the recent high-profile, influence-peddling trial of Ottawa Mayor Larry O'Brien.

Judge Cunningham is 69; he was appointed to the bench in 1991.

His comments, delivered last week in his ruling dismissing the charges against Mr. O'Brien, are now drawing criticism from political strategists and activists who are shaking their heads, wondering when women will be treated as equals in politics.


Toddson - Aug 11, 2009 9:48:12 am PDT #3176 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

For the PUA thing - I get the feeling that the men who suscribe to these beliefs aren't looking to date - or even have sex with - an average woman. They want the young, beautiful (or at least very pretty) girls - that's what they think they're entitled to.


erikaj - Aug 11, 2009 9:48:14 am PDT #3177 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

Yes, things like "Forced Teaming"(making a "we" where there's not) That insult thing has a name too, and like I said it works because it makes the mark want to prove they're not "too good" or whatever-the-fuck.) Although my favorite quote from that is "No is a complete sentence." Love this, especially from a guy, but then I've crushed on de Becker since college. 'It's cause you didn't have a strong father figure, isn't it?" maybe, actually. Or because I get all "aww," when people send me mayhem over the internets.


beth b - Aug 11, 2009 9:48:52 am PDT #3178 of 30001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I am not a rageaholic. I find raging an useless emotion , yet healthcare -- makes me rage.

So far I am letting real stories talk.

And , although I get where your friends are comming from Stunthusband -- fear is like rage. Unless directed into action , it isn't helpful. I have loved ones that get both ragey and fearfilled. I can't talk them out of it, but I can suggest action ( including in this case - research)


Fred Pete - Aug 11, 2009 9:51:07 am PDT #3179 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

I think the logic behind any PUA system is that the man using it doesn't need a high success rate if the whole point is to get a willing woman into his bed. Maybe the guy tries his system on, say, eight women in a night. One falls for it. Even though the guy's success rate is less than 15 percent, he wins -- he got what he wanted.

I don't think that's a 19YO mentality. That's a 14YO's fantasy. The guy would probably be just as happy with a blow-up doll.


tommyrot - Aug 11, 2009 9:52:42 am PDT #3180 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Where's the nearest Death Panel? I've lost all faith in humanity and want to ask for a suicide pill....


lisah - Aug 11, 2009 9:52:55 am PDT #3181 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

Although my favorite quote from that is "No is a complete sentence."

So true. Love that!


Steph L. - Aug 11, 2009 9:53:46 am PDT #3182 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

For the PUA thing - I get the feeling that the men who suscribe to these beliefs aren't looking to date - or even have sex with - an average woman. They want the young, beautiful (or at least very pretty) girls - that's what they think they're entitled to.

You nailed it. (No pun intended.) Guys who, by prevailing standards, are themselves average guys, think they're entitled to young, nubile, sexy nymphomaniacs. Which I don't get -- why do they think that, even though they're not Brad Pitt, they deserve a young sexy thing?


Dana - Aug 11, 2009 9:54:00 am PDT #3183 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

You know, speaking of death panels, it also drives me INSANE that people genuinely believe that the U.S. government would willingly kill off senior citizens or the terminally ill or people with Down's Syndrome. I mean, really? REALLY?

I may need ice cream to soothe my rage.


meara - Aug 11, 2009 9:54:51 am PDT #3184 of 30001

meara, isn't your employer a pharamceutical company?

Heh. Better yet...it's from the parent company of my company (mine is not a pharma)...the parent company is an INSURANCE COMPANY!

Which, BTW, gives me shitty insurance.