You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Connie Neil - Aug 11, 2009 9:24:10 am PDT #3137 of 30001
brillig

I stopped for breakfast this morning in a deli that had Fox News on, showing a town meeting in progress. A barely college-aged guy was working the register. I mutter "twitheads," and he gives an offended look. I nod at the TV. "Them," I say, waiting for the Local Utah Boy to go off on a birther rant or something. He looks around a little then leans forward: "I know, it's horrible." "Can't you change the channel?" "They always change it back."

A nice bit of Power To the People in Utah this morning.


Calli - Aug 11, 2009 9:24:32 am PDT #3138 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

amongst my people-with-HIV friends, there's genuine fear that that they will be targeted for "forced euthanasia" in some new Evil Empire State Controlled Healthcare system.

I expect there are a number of older people who really believe they'll be force to go to death boards to justify their continued existence. It's shameful what Conservatives and health insurance companies will do to further their agendas.


Dana - Aug 11, 2009 9:26:18 am PDT #3139 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I'm writing my senators and representative. My two senators are female Democrats. My rep is a man named Doc.


Steph L. - Aug 11, 2009 9:27:46 am PDT #3140 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I think the insult is supposed to be more of a tease.

The problem I have with that is, even if it *is* a tease and not an outright nasty insult, that kind of teasing is reserved for people who are close to me -- friends, family, etc. That's a level of intimacy that already exists, that says, You can give me shit because I know you love me.

But if a stranger walked up and said something like that, I'd think, who the fuck are you, and why do you think it's okay to talk to me in a manner that assumes a pre-existing intimate relationship with me, and also fuck right the hell off.


Connie Neil - Aug 11, 2009 9:28:33 am PDT #3141 of 30001
brillig

Why don't they understand that women are people?

Because we're not people, we're breeders that are going to continue their lineage and increase their status. Sheep, goats, womenfolk. No difference.


Jessica - Aug 11, 2009 9:29:00 am PDT #3142 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Have none of these people been denied coverage by their private healthcare company? Because a shitload of people are, every day. Because your insurance company is a money-making enterprise. They don't actually care about your care!

EXACTLY. Seriously - a bureaucrat standing in between you and your doctor? IS WHAT WE HAVE NOW, DUMBASSES.


Allyson - Aug 11, 2009 9:29:11 am PDT #3143 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Why are you guys trying to give me a rage attack?!?!?

Sorry! Sorry! I just didn't want to be ragey by myself anymore! And I keep reading the comments sections where it's all Blame Misogyny (if women were more compliant, we wouldn't have to kill them).


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 11, 2009 9:29:19 am PDT #3144 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Because we're not people, we're breeders that are going to continue their lineage and increase their status. Sheep, goats, womenfolk. No difference.

If they think like that, they should go try their pick up lines on the sheep and goats.


beth b - Aug 11, 2009 9:30:16 am PDT #3145 of 30001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

health care makes me ragey --

dh had a drug that worked -- but after 2 yrs an insurance co said nope, off label. He has something that woks sort of now. Agter going through a procedure --- but now His co wasn't happy with the insurance plan. So we have new insurance, maybe. So that fact that his co can get between us and healthcare is another thing.

The PUA thing is like the rules -- How can I get and never give.


Steph L. - Aug 11, 2009 9:30:22 am PDT #3146 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I expect there are a number of older people who really believe they'll be force to go to death boards to justify their continued existence.

The boy's parents -- both in their 70s, one of whom has fairly serious COPD and has to be on oxygen 24/7 -- are in this group. They actually believe that they'll have to have to meet with a doctor who will give them options of how they can die. I overheard The Boy on the phone with his mom, saying, "Mom, they AREN'T going to give you a pill to commit suicide!"

Blows my tiny little mind, it does.